Is it Rape or Not

I'm not familiar with this phrase, can you tell me what it means? But, with regard to the screwing of captive ladies, it wasn't all that much better. It provided a mourning period prior to the rape, a rather nice gesture... it's kind of like God giving a woman about to be raped the chance to undress herself instead of having her expensive clothes torn asunder, I suppose. Curious. Usually one hears people decrying the downfall of civilization as we let homosexuals live, let people get divorced, let all kind of loony religions into the public sphere, and, generally, allow others to go about and do their thing until they start infringing on the rights of others. It's nice to know that these things are derived from the Bible's influence.Edited by docpotato, : No reason given.

Am I misreading this, or did you just give Hammurabi's credit to Moses? Because quite frankly, historians recognize the Code of Hammurabi as the source for the "eye for an eye" concept. Not moses.Unless, of course, I misread your post.

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and the little boys were guilty?
you mean pre-pubescant boys were guilty of seducing israel?please forgive me for laughing my head of at this.
little boys pre-pubescant boys guilty of seduction? they don't even know where to put it yet, how the heck can they be guilty?Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

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They were giving offerings to the LORD which typically meant offerings that sent sweet smoke to heaven.This is fodder for another topic. I will write one when I get time. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

Are we not talking about your god's Commands here!!! You know "Thus sayeth the Lord" stuff. I am assuming you believe that your god approves of his own commands. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

Well, that's news to me, but if so, then maybe people will stop complaining that eye for an eye is unjust, rather than the perfect equality it obviously is, since of course we all know that Hammurabi was a lot more just than Moses, and certainly than Moses' God.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes but there's nothing more to say about it than that it is outrageously absurd to read human sacrifice into the Old Testament, where God is always condemning it. But I understand that unbelievers don't mind creating contradictions and attributing them to God.

If you are talking about commands you are going to have to get a lot more specific about what you are referring to. Quotes, say. I'm not a mindreader.

No, I don't think he is. Jesus was vastly different in both word and action.You can call me a picker and chooser if you like but I prefer a belief that I don't have to play games with in order to reconcile the VAST CHASM of differences in the characterizations of God. Especially when it forces me to endorse genocidal atrocities all in the name of righteous justice.Edited by Jazzns, : No reason given.

They were considered to be sure to grow up to support the overall sin of the Midianites against Israel, as boys grow up to identify with their fathers and their nation in a way girls weren't expected to -- so say some of the commentators.

Everything Jesus was is foreshadowed in the God of the Old Testament. And the prophecies also show that the Messiah is to be Yahweh in the flesh. They are one and the same. There's no playing games except in the flesh. The Spirit reveals the whole.

but if you've killed the fathers, and let the young survive, they grow up in your culture. they identify with your culture.

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you oughta read some of his laws--the seignors (equivalent of nobility) could kill a person of lesser rank by just paying a small fine. If he killed another seignor, he himself was killed.now tell me, how is that "eye for eye"?

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2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

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It means there are many ways to read and to misread the scriptures, and it's a good thing to read it right. Yeah, and I guess you would know because why? How free you feel to judge God. Good points and obviously I spoke too soon. I was thinking in terms of the context we are discussing. Women's rights would not have happened without the Bible.

Many would remember the slaughter of their fathers. They would not fail to understand they were Midianites in any case.Anyway, all I know is that's what the commentators say and they do tend to read a lot of literature about history and the cultures involved in the Biblical accounts. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.