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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: And not just Constantine. The difference is simple, there is no directive in scripture to conquer, to spread by the sword.Christ forbade his disciples to use armed force, note Peter relieving someone of his ear, and Christs response. But that is not true of Islam. When the Protestants and Catholics of Ireland were at odds, the clergy of other nations did not incite their able-bodied to join the fight and they did not plead for money from their members to finance killing. But, that is true with Islam. Its wars and terrorism are very openly supported by Muslim groups everywhere and are encouraged from the Mosques. Why? Is Allah the god of Christians? A good source for understanding is G. J. O. Moshay's "Who is this Allah"It uses middle eastern history to explain Allah who has no similarity with Jehovah God.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
Jar, Jar, Jar....Aslan is the only Lion, Arie Gur Yehuda.
quote: A good source to learn the truth about the Koran is?????Subject is Koran, don't change it. "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: Which one? Muslim groups do not support terrorism? ok! Lucky for you - you have seen the opposite of support for terrorism. But then, they are not the issue.Those that are, somehow find incentive in the Koran to do what they do. If only for the promise of heavenly rewards. What is it in the Koran that gives them such license? "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: To explain it in terms you may understand, if you have children, are they one with you, flesh of your flesh, spirit of your spirit? It does not explain the mystery that is God, nothing can. "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: Yes I have. The purpose of NORAID? The same as that of Islamic terrorist groups?OK! "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: I'm stumped, but perhaps you don't know that everything that calls itself Christian does not a Christian make. There are loads of non-Christians attending church, non-Christian because they have no clue what it means to be one. They come in all sizes, from pope to pauper, and you can tell a man by his actions and his words. You talk the talk, you walk the walk. Christian terrorists is, therefore, a contradiction in terms. Is this true for Muslims?I would like to know if the same may be applied to Muslims, and if a Muslim does bad things, he is not really a Muslim? "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: Thank you, but I have a great deal of experience with this and am always told that what I quote from the Koran is incorrectly translated, even when the translater is Muslim. A most recent experience involves the term 'nikah', and I was so wrong quoting the Muslim translater, I am still walking backward. As for hadith, I understand that Muslims accept a hadith as the word of Mahomet rather than Allah and, as you say, hadith equals radicals. ==== The Hadith is a body of laws, legends and stories about Muhammad's way of life, (Arabic, Sunnah which includes his biography or the sira) and the sayings themselves where he elaborated on his choices or offered advice; many parts of the Hadith deal with his companions (Sahaba).=== From Wikipedia. "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
The name Palestine finds its root in Philistine, and the Philistines were not an Arabic people. (See Old Testament)
Google: Palestine Facts From Palestine Facts: Early History: The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Roman "Palaestina". Quoting Golda Meir: * The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin a fictional entity. [In an article by Sarah Honig, Jerusalem Post, November 25, 1995] Hope that helps.Ishmael and Isaac were brothers.....so much sibling rivalry.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
I have a fine appreciation/affection for Ishmael and his mother, there is no hatred in me for him or any of his descendants. It is evil practices I hate, and so all the way around, not just from Muslims.
As for repeating yourself? I would find it a privilege.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: If the sugar use defines the Scot, then Angus is a not.
quote: I acknowledge atrocities committed by some who call themselves Christian. There is no biblical directive for Christians to commit atrocities. Therefore, those who do, are not. I can call myself a brain surgeon, but unless I know the routine, I'm a fraud. I can call myself the emperor of China....well, you know.
quote: quote: A man who thinks like a killer, is a killer, not a Christian.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: If the sugar use defines the Scot, then Angus is a not.
quote: I acknowledge atrocities committed by some who call themselves Christian. There is no biblical directive for Christians to commit atrocities. Therefore, those who do, are not. I can call myself a brain surgeon, but unless I know the routine, I'm a fraud. I can call myself the emperor of China....well, you know.
quote: quote: A man who thinks like a killer, is a killer, not a Christian.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
quote: Where? OT god-commanded elimination of certain peoples is a foretaste, and well-describes the reasons for destruction. Check it out. God-commanded - not any other. This message has been edited by PecosGeorge, 02-28-2005 15:05 AM
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
Angel messengers:
10:5 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins [were] girded with fine gold of Uphaz: 10:6 His body also [was] like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. 10:7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. 10:8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. 10:9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. 10:10 And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and [upon] the palms of my hands. 10:11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling. 10:12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words. 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision [is] for [many] days. ========= The story of Balak. Starting with Numbers 22: 22 But now the anger of God flared up at him for going, and the angel of the LORD stationed himself on the road to hinder him as he was riding along on his ass, accompanied by two of his servants.23 When the ass saw the angel of the LORD standing on the road with sword drawn, she turned off the road and went into the field, and Balaam had to beat her to bring her back on the road. 24 Then the angel of the LORD took his stand in a narrow lane between vineyards with a stone wall on each side. 25 When the ass saw the angel of the LORD there, she shrank against the wall; and since she squeezed Balaam's leg against it, he beat her again. 26 The angel of the LORD then went ahead, and stopped next in a passage so narrow that there was no room to move either to the right or to the left. 27 When the ass saw the angel of the LORD there, she cowered under Balaam. So, in anger, he again beat the ass with his stick. and so on.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
Thank you, but I disagree. A scot is born one, regardless of what he eats. And, therefore, the analogy is moot.
A Christian is so by choice. He loses the definition by his actions.You abide by the rules of the club, or you are out, and you can call yourself by the name of it ad infinitum, but you are still out. A conversion is necessary, steps are necessary to become Christian. Simply born into an area where there are some, is not enough. A relationship with God is not a collective, but a one on one. To maintain membership is a daily struggle, moment by moment. Error requires forgiveness, and if not asked, exclusion from the club. If sugar eating would define membership in the Scot club, and if the Scot were to eat sugar, he'd be out of the club. Do you see it? OK with me if you don't. "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
as you wish!
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