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Author Topic:   Is Evolutionist Disparagement of Creationism Justified?
contracycle
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Message 141 of 334 (193248)
03-22-2005 6:26 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Mammuthus
03-22-2005 5:33 AM


Re: Why would you want YEC's???
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People seem to seek out common ground in other subjects and the alliances don't hold up as tightly i.e. does anyone agree with anything contracycle has to say outside of an evolution topic?
I'd rather you were more consistent one way or the other, myself.
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But this does not really further the debate much and at best, some people (capitalist and commie) might learn a bit about the research that actually goes on in the real world instead of the media hype or the misinformation distributed by capitalist groups.
Note substitution; I recommend a lumberjack to get that log out of your eye. Relentless dogmatic hostility asppears to be the modus vivendi of this board, IME.

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contracycle
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Message 198 of 334 (193614)
03-23-2005 4:51 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by Trixie
03-22-2005 4:27 PM


Re: First thoughts on a fair proposal I hope
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doesn't constitute evidence. Statements made without evidence and reasoning to back them up remain statements. For example, a court wouldn't find someone guilty of murder just because a member of the public phoned the court and said "He's guilty" and when asked why, replied "He simply is".
... except that the Evo's do not hold themselves to this standard. Exactly this sort of nonsense has been bandied about in mutlile threads in regards communism for example, and is not only tolerated but generally supported - and this is despite multiple admissions that the topic has not in fact been investigated by those making the claim.
You are quite right to say that statements are not evidence. Unfortunately the Evo side is manifestly hypocritical about sticking to this principle - and indeed, at least on of those guilty of this has been subsequently made an administrator so that they can exercise their hypocrisy with greater reach and power.
Then of course there are also the absurdist and outright insulting accusations of "anti-americanism", a direct adoption of the theistic argument that atheists are not really atheists but have some personal beef with god.
Hardly inspiring of confidence, is it? There is much cleaning up of acts required, and not exclusively on the creo side by a long way.
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contracycle
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Message 202 of 334 (193657)
03-23-2005 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by CK
03-22-2005 4:02 PM


Re: Simply Idiotic Claims
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They invented it when they invaded Europe? really?
Well, apart from claims to it being invented in India, yes the timning is roughly right. In that it appears in the 700's I understand, which is very close to the Islamic conquest of Spain.
Trivia: I recently learned that the region "Andalusia" comes from "Al-Andalus" which was the Islamic term for the Vandals who had settled there.
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