Wow!
Here we go again.
Let's take just one paragraph in your post and try to analyze it; just 157 short words.
Faith writes:
Yes, jar, I am aware of all that. Without getting too far into the complicated history of church schisms, I'd just point out that all those Christian groups that support the ToE and deny the Bible's statements that contradict the ToE are "liberal." This is also true in Jewish groups as the Orthodox Jews agree with us conservative Christians on these things because they trust the Biblical witness as we do. The erroneously-named "liberals" on the other hand deny the Bible's absolute authority, but what I'm defending is the Bible itself as THE authority, THE foundation for true Christian belief. If you want to divide between liberal and conservative Christians to keep things clear, fine. Being a minority isn't a bad thing. Jesus said "The way to life is narrow and few there are who find it." There's no reason whatever to assume the majority can be counted on to have the truth on any subject whatever.
First sentence to be examined.
Without getting too far into the complicated history of church schisms, I'd just point out that all those Christian groups that support the ToE and deny the Bible's statements that contradict the ToE are "liberal."
What does that have to do with anything? Is the word Liberal stamped on the forehead? Is there some negative connotation of the word Liberal? Was Jesus Liberal?
Remember, NONE of those groups disparage Creation, what they disparage are those who deny the evidence that GOD left us.
This is also true in Jewish groups as the Orthodox Jews agree with us conservative Christians on these things because they trust the Biblical witness as we do.
Please provide some evidence to support that assertion.
The erroneously-named "liberals" on the other hand deny the Bible's absolute authority, but what I'm defending is the Bible itself as THE authority, THE foundation for true Christian belief.
Huh?
If you want to divide between liberal and conservative Christians to keep things clear, fine.
I have no desire to make such a distinction. Instead, I would divide folk by those that believe the record GOD left us and those who deny the record GOD left us. Those I mentioned believe the record GOD left us; those who insist on treating the Bible inappropriately, using it as though it were a science text, deny what GOD has written for us, are the Classic Creationists.
It is not between liberal and conservative but rather between those who believe in GOD and those who do not. The people who insist on continuing to assert that there was a flood or the earth is only 6000 years old or that the Exodus happened as described in the Bible or that there was a literal Adam and Eve or that the story of the Garden of Eden is about some Fall, simply deny GOD, denigrate, disparage and limit GOD.
Being a minority isn't a bad thing.
Obviously I agree. After all, I often find myself in a minority position in Theological discussions here at EvC. LOL
Jesus said "The way to life is narrow and few there are who find it."
I agree completely. Folk that try to turn the Bible into some science or history text have completely missed the whole point of the book; they are way off the path and unlikely to ever find their way back. It's very sad.
There's no reason whatever to assume the majority can be counted on to have the truth on any subject whatever.
While that MAY be applicable in the case of unfounded opinions, fortunately it's possible to also base things on stuff like Evidence. The churches that oppose teaching Creationism do not do so based on some beliefs. Instead, they base their position on the simple foundation that ALL of the evidence GOD left us shows that the precepts of classic Creationism are wrong.
Whew. Much better this time. It only took about 700 words to refute the 157 word paragraph.
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