Jazz, I already bowed out of that thread. What it would take to engage me again I don't know. I saw that you wrote quite a long post but since I just struggled through THIS entire thread and have had to save a few posts here to read later as it is, I doubt I'm going to even be able to read yours for a while.
I volunteered to participate in that thread because you expressed an interest in continuing. Now it looks like the cycle of "pile on Faith" is continuing in this thread probably to the same end.
I can see why you are getting frustrated with this forum but you also need to look at the amount of time and discussion that has gone on in order to try to make this place more comfortable for you. That was the whole point for moving the sedimentation thread over to the GD forum was to mitigate exactly some of the things that were causing you grief.
I'm also thoroughly discouraged with this entire enterprise, as I've said many times in THIS thread, which is on-topic here but wouldn't be on the GD thread. Reading through the posts of the last couple of days that I wasn't able to get to until now just piles on the discouragement.
I can imagine. I don't think I could post with nearly any quality if I had to try to keep up with the amount of responses you are getting. Realize that if you do choose to participate in the GD topic that the exchange will just be between me and you, no time limits on when you need to respond, and an agreement to be civil. Even though we have had our share of fiery debate in the past there is no reason we cannot agree to conduct ourselves in a more calm fashion now. Isn't that what you want?
I saw the invitation to you earlier and visited long enough to see that you'd answered just now. It doesn't look hopeful. Sorry I can't promise anything. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe.
Just remember that all the effort that has gone into setting this up was becuase it seemed like you were keen on continuing. That was of course until this thread started up and you have gotten into some, what I can only assume have been, discouraging conversations with others.
Realize now that the admin on this board can be very accomidating at times and they have basically given you free will to isolate your self in a discussion with me or whoever else you want; one on one or one on many if you choose. This is an attempt to allow you to directly mitigate the flood of responses you get and to control who you feel like talking to.
One thing I can say for sure is that if you do decide to participate in the topic that I plan on doing my best to play it calm and collected. There is no emotional investment in my being wrong about sedimentation and I have no scorn for dealing with topics that I may consider trivially wrong. My "first" post in the GD is an attempt to simply an attempt to explain things without having to resort to trivializing your position.
My ultimate goal is to prove to you you and other creos both active and lurking that a
patient conversation between highly dissenting positions can continue and be entertaining.
The ball is in your court now. What do you want?
This message has been edited by Jazzns, 03-24-2005 08:25 AM
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-- Lewis Black, The Daily Show
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