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Author Topic:   Coffee House Musings on Creationist Topic Proposals
ringo
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Message 827 of 1429 (899133)
10-08-2022 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 826 by Dredge
10-08-2022 9:44 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
Dredge writes:
... a pseudo-scientific superstition that Darwinists subscribe to that endows deep-time with magical creative powers.
Not "creative" powers. Accumulative powers.
Tiny changes, that nobody would notice, accumulate over long periods of time to make huge changes.
And we do have long periods of time. You creationist idiots often make the mistake of thinking that science makes up long periods of time because evolution needs long periods of time.
But we HAVE long periods of time. We have the geological evidence of long periods of time whether evolution happened or not. Long periods of time are there even if life never happened.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 868 of 1429 (899206)
10-10-2022 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 841 by Dredge
10-09-2022 4:31 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
Dredge writes:
in fact, a single mutation would produce only a tiny fraction of the gland
I laughed when I read that. You seem to be saying that one mutation starts with one LEGO and other mutations each add a LEGO until the structure is complete.
What actually happens is that a mutation makes a change in an existing structure and subsequent mutations make further changes. The originally function of the structure will continue as long as the accumulated changes allow it - and a new function may arise at some point in the series of changes.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Message 869 of 1429 (899207)
10-10-2022 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 855 by Dredge
10-09-2022 6:28 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
Dredge writes:
the snake had to evolve tougher fangs coz its prey was evolving tougher skin? I love it!

Why then didn't the snake simply choose prey with softer skin?
The prey animals with thicker skin had a better chance of survival, so thicker skin became prevalent. The thin-skinned prey may well have become extinct because of snake predation.
Similarly, the snakes with stronger fangs had a larger food supply (thin-skinned AND thick-skinned), which increased their chances of survival.
You really shouldn't be laughing at ideas that are easy to explain.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 871 of 1429 (899209)
10-10-2022 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 867 by Dredge
10-10-2022 6:47 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
I have considered your comments with an open and unprejudiced mind.
You left out "empty". You keep forgetting that you're a self-confessed idiot. (Of course, your forgetfulness is understandable.)
Dredge writes:
My conclusion is that I have deemed them devoid of merit.
Your conclusion is worthless. The problem is in your feeble mind, not in what people are telling you.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 878 of 1429 (899233)
10-10-2022 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 872 by Dredge
10-10-2022 3:02 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
Dredge writes:
You haven't explained anything ... all you and xongsmith have done is make up fanciful stories plucked out of thin air.
If you don't understand the explanations, ask questions. Don't pretend you're smart enough to reject them out of hand.
Dredge writes:
None of your fairy tales can be tested and are therefore worthless as science.
They can be tested against the fossil record.
Dredge writes:
But such is the wont of Darwinists ...
Get out of the nineteenth century.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 879 of 1429 (899234)
10-10-2022 10:02 PM
Reply to: Message 874 by Dredge
10-10-2022 5:20 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
I was hoping you wouldn't mention the fact that I am, without any doubt at all , an idiot.
Well, you are, and we won't forget - especially since you insist on flaunting it in every post. You'll look a lot less stupid if you ask questions and try to understand the answers.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 886 of 1429 (899321)
10-11-2022 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 885 by Dredge
10-11-2022 6:28 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Why are you using my girlfriend's image as your avatar?
It's a long story. My first avatar was Lee Van Cleef because I'm quick on the draw. Then, for reasons that I don't entirely remember myself, I affected a gender-unspecific persona for a while (not that it was really different from my usual persona). Sharon Stone in The Quick and the Dead seemed like a more suitable avatar - and it was quite popular. Then, for other reasons that are lost to history, I switched to Sean Connery (Marko Ramius, the Vilnius Schoolmaster, from The Hunt for Red October). That's closer to what I look like in real life. Finally, I realized that I still had the Sharon Stone graphic, so I switched back.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 893 of 1429 (899356)
10-12-2022 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 889 by dwise1
10-12-2022 2:16 AM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
dwise1 writes:
(old Maine joke ("Ye can't get the'a from he'a!"))
A similar joke that applies to Dredge, candle2, Kleinman, et al.:
A travelling salesman stops at a farm to ask for directions:
Salesman: "Do you know how to get to the city from here?"
Farmer: "Uh, nope."
Salesman: "Do you know how to get to the highway from here?"
Farmer: "Uh, nope."
Salesman: "Do you know where this road goes?"
Farmer: "Uh, nope."
Salesman: Well, you don't know much, do you?"
Farmer: "Mebbe not... but I ain't the one that's lost."

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 898 of 1429 (899421)
10-13-2022 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 897 by Dredge
10-13-2022 12:30 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
I can assure you ⁴⁵ it was not a remnant⁵ from a quote⁶⁷....
Your assurance means nothing.
Dredge writes:
...and you should⁴ now know⁸⁸⁹ that I wasn't lying⁶ about it⁵⁴⁷³.
I have no reason to think you're not lying.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 907 of 1429 (899451)
10-13-2022 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 899 by Dredge
10-13-2022 8:03 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Do the⁴ superscript numbers⁷⁸ in this sentence⁹ mean part² of this sentence⁴ was taken from a quote⁵ made by someone⁸⁹ else?
You're shooting yourself in the foot by admitting that you DO know how to do it. You're also admitting that you're a troll by going on and on about it. You'd be better off just shutting the fuck up about it.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 913 of 1429 (899465)
10-14-2022 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 908 by Dredge
10-14-2022 12:59 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
ringo writes:
You're shooting yourself in the foot by admitting that you DO know how to do it. You're also admitting that you're a troll by going on and on about it. You'd be better off just shutting the fuck up about it.
Translation: "I'm embarrassed to be proven wrong by that creationist idiot, Dredge ... and there's no way I'm going to admit I barked up the wrong tree."
Was I wrong about you going on and on about it? You're making my case.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 914 of 1429 (899466)
10-14-2022 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 909 by Dredge
10-14-2022 1:02 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
ringo writes:
You're shooting yourself in the foot by admitting that you DO know how to do it.
Really? Please explain.
You already responded arrogantly to that statement in Message 908 and now you're admitting you didn't understand it? How many feet can you get in your mouth at once?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 942 of 1429 (900454)
10-27-2022 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 936 by Dredge
10-27-2022 7:51 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Cite one example of a vaccine or medicine that required the acceptance of that theory that all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor.
We didn't "require" relativity to get to the moon. We might have gotten there safely if we had never discovered relativity. But we did use it.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 966 of 1429 (900743)
10-31-2022 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 957 by Dredge
10-31-2022 4:38 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Taq writes:
As I said earlier, these models are used because the animals used are thought to share common ancestry with humans.
Nonsense. Those animal models are used simply because they share genetics similarities with humans.
​Umm... they share genetic similarities because they're related - i.e. they have common ancestors. That's what "related" means.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 976 of 1429 (900882)
11-01-2022 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 973 by Dredge
11-01-2022 9:06 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
You still have no idea what my argument is about.
Your "argument" is thoroughly incoherent. When somebody can't understand you, it may be them. When NOBODY can understand you, it's you.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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