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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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What I meant was if evolution were true, then that would nullify a great portion of the book of Genesis. As it has been shown that evolution happens, and that the theory of evolution is our best explanation for that, is that close enough? And parts of Genesis were disproved prior to Darwin and his theory. The idea of a global flood ca. 4,350 years ago was disproved about 200 years ago by the early Christian geologists who were seeking to support that flood.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Do you have a substantive reply to my post?
If so, I'd like to see it. Otherwise, your response is of no value. Try again?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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I viewed your post as an opinion, and since I don't believe in your version of evolution, I replied back with my own opinion. My "opinion" is backed up by floors of peer-reviewed articles in major libraries and the evidence in hundreds of museums.
To demand substance, you need to be able to provide it first. That is typical trollish behavior.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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But no, to create information as the ToE would require, your example would also have to explain the creation of multiple books of equal size, from the same ream of paper. And then those books would need to each create multiple books... and on and on. No problem. Given billions of organisms, each having multiple mutations at each generation, with generations of some species being surprisingly short, and with three or so billion years to work with, that's easy!Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Which of course is absolute nonsense because these mutations DO absolutely NOTHING of any benefit to the organism, except once in a great great while by a sheer fluke, and some of them are downright lethal. Mutations are MISTAKES, ERRORS, INSULTS to the normal functioning of the DNA. Wrong! Again. Mutations are CHANGES. (Gee, its in caps, so it must be true!) Whether you say yea or nay, some changes are beneficial, some are neutral, and some are detrimental IN RELATION TO THE PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT. Guess which ones tend to be passed on at a higher rate.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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If it started with Adam's near perfect DNA Adam is a myth. It makes no sense to base a logical argument on a myth.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Molecular Evolution: Nearly Neutral Theory
Tomoko Ohta, National Institute of Genetics, Mishima, Japan Abstract Nearly neutral theory is an extension of the neutral theory and contends that the borderline mutations, whose effects lie between the selected and the neutral classes, are important at the molecular level. Under the strict neutral theory, the evolutionary rate is equal to the neutral mutation rate. Under the near‐neutrality, the situation is not so simple and the most significant difference between the neutral and the nearly neutral theories is that the latter predicts a negative correlation between evolutionary rate and species population size. The nearly neutral theory also predicts abundant rare alleles in the population as compared with strict neutrality. Genome‐wide data on protein evolution are mostly in accord with the nearly neutral theory. Genetic regulatory systems are highly complex. The near‐neutrality concept may be extended to the evolution of such systems, where epigenetics and robustness are important for gene expression and many mutations are weakly selected.Key Concepts: --The emphasis of significance of weak selection in evolution distinguishes the nearly neutral theory from the neutral theory. Just a moment... Do you see anything here that supports YEC or any other anti-evolution causes? If so, I'd appreciate an explanation, as I don't see it.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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