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Author Topic:   Evolution falsifies God/s?
AZPaul3
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Message 32 of 253 (726425)
05-08-2014 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by faceman
05-08-2014 11:25 PM


Re: Denial doesn't refute reality
How do you, as an atheist, bemoan malaria, the Holocaust, tapeworms or yes, even the Kardashians? If everything is just matter anyways, then really, what does it all matter? How do you attribute worth to anything?
Maybe because he values the human life and the joys of being human. Maybe he sees the pain that inflicts humans and tries to relieve as much as possible and abhors those painful things. And maybe he does all this on his own volition, out of his own love, without the need of some sky monster with a lake of fire to threaten him into acting as any decent human should.
If you need that threat of damnation in order to act humanely then keep at it. Wouldn't want you out on the streets at night without your crucifix.

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AZPaul3
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Message 36 of 253 (726431)
05-09-2014 12:28 AM
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05-08-2014 11:48 PM


Re: Denial doesn't refute reality
Natural selection?
Of course. Do you really think the human species would have lasted so long and spread so far without the evolved and inherited sense of empathy?
You miss the point.
No, I hit it all right. You're one of those religious goons who think that their base human instincts (products of evolution, btw) can only be controlled by having their morality issued to them by some god. You have no love or respect for humanity or the human condition on your own volition (so you think) and need to be instructed on proper comportment by some outside threat. And so you believe this must be true of all.
Humans are capable of thinking of this world's greatest evils and yet can give and feel limitless love. These same traits get imparted to your gods, not the other way around. The rest of us recognize that we alone are responsible for our thoughts and actions. Society guides us. Other humans guide us. We do not need any supernatural coercion to tell right from wrong, good from bad, righteous from evil.
Morality, especially given the evil crap in the jewish part of your book, does not come from up there. It comes from you. If you need the crutch of religion to tap into this well of empathy then fine, have at it. But do not presume the rest of us are so weak.

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Message 237 of 253 (728645)
05-31-2014 6:05 PM
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05-31-2014 1:46 AM


Re: more absurdities
Would 40,000 generations be enough time to create new and useful modifications? It was tried with Escherichia coli, but the result sounds a lot like genetic entropy to me.
I would like to see your source on this. Does the source give details on the differences in the genome between the first and the 40,000th generation? How different were they?

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