Too much moderation on these boards?

Your question as to how that got that way is an important one but for starters I'd just like to be refered to a not appalling creationist site.We might learn about balance by comparing EvC (with an excess of evo mods) and a not appalling site with a excess of creo mods. I've only seen a few creo sites and not seen one with any evenhandedness at all.randman seems to think he knows of some, do you?

I'm waiting for one to bite me on the arse. Were you going to give some links to them or not?Once you've shown us a couple we can see if it if evenhanded at all. Will I be allowed to post my opinions and evidences there?

The intention of this site is to discuss the controversy over evolutionary "science" and creation "science". Most of us don't give a darn about someones faith or world view untill they attempt to force it into the educational system by whatever means they can find. The only reason there exists such a thing as creation "science" is to circumvent the constitution of the US. It is, at it's outset a sham.You are, however, correct that most posts deal with something other than science. That is, IMO, because the YEC creationists have no answers for the facts presented in the dates and dating forum. Because the IDists can not defend the probability calculations that the ID organizations and authors put forward and because they haven't any more to contribute than utterly silly analogies about 747's. That is because those who want to argue about what science is end up in the same place as they got to in the Dover court case with astrology et all as science.In other words there is little science discussed here because there is NO science in creation "science".Most of the "evo" side here are happy to discuss all sorts of sciences. However, the others don't venture there so there is very little traffic.

Both opinions on the "facts" of creation are accepted for posting at this forum. That is the definition of even handed.Almost all of us (on both sides) agree that science has nothing to say about the creation of the universe (yet or maybe forever). However, it can make statements about specific ways that it could have been created.If this site is reasonably even handed you can post your opinions about the nature of the creation. Being even handed doesn't mean you have to be agreed with by all here.The site allows anyone to join whatever their views. If there are more people who think that science disproves creation here then there are two reasons for that:1) More anti-creation sorts join or are allowed to join.2) Fewer pro-creation sorts join or stay.I can tell you for sure that it is number two. We have many, many creationists who come through here in a year but don't stay long. I think I gave my reasons for why they don't stay. They can't take the heat.If you think there should be more discussion of any particular topic then just take it up. Invite your friends to help out. If the forum guidelines are followed you will be allowed to post all sorts of stuff.If you don't like an individual claiming that science disproves creation you may challenge him/her to a one-on-one debate.We are discussing here the evenhandedness of the site. You can test that yourself by attempting such discussions and bring your friends along too.

Buz, I mentioned this in response to GDR and suggested to him the option of opening a thread to discuss it or anything else.This is obviously NOT the thread to discuss this.