Separation of Church and State

Do you have public schools in Texas? I thought Gov. Bush put an end to that.

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A bit of Wicca worship would do the little pagans a world of good.The public school system is our greatest practical investment in our ideals of equality, and one of the greatest obstacles to elitism and oligarchy.It is passing strange that Christians would want to burn it down because they cannot subsume it.

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...populace, damn it, not populous: may I suggest a bit more basic English and a bit less theology, perhaps?

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Translation: We want to shove Christ down your kids' throats and call it freedom.

My bad, Ned. Your time-apportioning calculus sounds fair to me.

This is bobbing and weaving, Faith.You want Christians to leave the publc schools precisely because Christians have so far failed to dictate the forced daily consumption of prayers, sermons, and religious instruction.You have argued in the past that Christianity permeated the schools in the past, and that it is a misreading of the Constitution to prevent Christianity from doing so now. You continue to insist that the absence of religious indoctrination is necessarily secular indoctrination.So now you assert you only advocate that Christians remove their children from public schools--as though your failed advocacy had no bearing on the matter.My translation stands. You would prefer to turn the schools into a "Great Indoctrination Factory" for your religion; indeed, you have described barriers to that as an infringement on religious rights.So it is merely your fall-back position to now assert that Christians should remove their children from public schools and to claim you never wanted to push religion in the schools, anyway.The essence of sour grapes is the lie.

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You have merely recapitulated my point in self-sympathetic tones.After all the flourishes and and flounces settle, you believe it would be fit and proper for teachers, among others, to proselytize students in public classroooms; that day is gone, and you cannot get it back. So you want separate schools for Christians. Whether you arrived at that conclusion before or after you showed up here is irrelevant.Thus, yes--I believe you have made yourself so clear as to be transparent, and I am content.

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Thanks, Freddy--made my Sat. morning!

Nice rant, rR, but wrong.Kids are allowed to pray in school--but the religious are not allowed to force other kids to either participate or feel like outsiders--why should they be?Do you want your children to be indoctrinated in Islam against your wishes?If Christianity has to play Caesar to keep it's children, it is a very weak faith.Public schools are civil institutions: the freedom of tyranny in that context is the freedom from indoctrination in others' religious beliefs. If you want a religious school, find one and send your kids there.In most families, the space of several generations will turn up both devout and disbelievers alike. Protecting the religious freedoms of all your descendants means protecting them from the religious impositions of others.If you had grandkids, you'd understand better.Edited by Omnivorous, : No reason given.