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Topic: Socialism in Venezuela has made illiteracy a thing of the past
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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however Capitalism thrives in the presence of greed/selfishness. 
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 94 of 193 (257975)
11-08-2005 8:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 90 by mick
11-08-2005 8:15 PM
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Re: literacy and socialism - back on topic
I don't know that there is or should be any connection between Literacy Rate and Democracy and or Socialism. But there is a definite connection between Literacy and Good Government.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Oh, I think it will most definitely collapse. And the rich Capitalists will go on to suck some other peoples dry.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 114 of 193 (258190)
11-09-2005 4:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 113 by randman
11-09-2005 4:17 PM
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health care and socialism
That there is any health care for the very, very poor is thanks to Socialism. That there is no health care for the middle class is thanks to Capitalism.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 116 of 193 (258210)
11-09-2005 5:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 115 by randman
11-09-2005 5:32 PM
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Re: health care and socialism
Is that why there are more Pharmaceutical Companies per capita in Germany or England than in the US? Or don't people get sick in Socialist societies? Is that why the US had to rely on foriegn suppliers for our Flu Vaccines last year?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 118 of 193 (258218)
11-09-2005 5:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 117 by randman
11-09-2005 5:42 PM
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Re: health care and socialism
Companies randman, I said Companies. Now is there some reason there cannot be a company in a Socialist Society? And let's quite changing what people say and playing your game of move the goal posts. My original statement was: "That there is any health care for the very, very poor is thanks to Socialism. That there is no health care for the middle class is thanks to Capitalism." Let's deal with those two statements.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 120 of 193 (258222)
11-09-2005 6:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 119 by randman
11-09-2005 6:02 PM
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Re: health care and socialism
You're not addressing the questions once again. I'll blow your modern medicine argument away at a later date. My original statement was: "That there is any health care for the very, very poor is thanks to Socialism. That there is no health care for the middle class is thanks to Capitalism." Let's deal with those two statements.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 130 of 193 (258318)
11-09-2005 9:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 121 by randman
11-09-2005 6:21 PM
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Re: health care and socialism
Since you seem unable to handle two statements at once, let's see if you can address just one of them. "That there is any health care for the very, very poor is thanks to Socialism."
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 133 of 193 (258322)
11-09-2005 9:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 131 by randman
11-09-2005 9:25 PM
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Re: health care and socialism
Great, we will let your posts stand and have a great day. Just to make sure it doesn't get edited, here it is folk in it's entirety.
Nope. I don't believe socialist doctors are providing the health care, do you? Welfare is not the same as socialism, but if you are counting welfare as socialist, that's fine, and I would then say under that definition of socialism, socialism helps provide free health care. Of course, prior to that, most doctors just provided about 20% of their services free, or sometimes poor folks would give them items from the farm or whatever. At least, that's how it was in my grandfather's day (both were doctors but speaking of one that practiced in rural NC). He was a democrat but hardly a socialist, and socialism had nothing to do with why or how he provided free health care to people that couldn't afford it.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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