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Author Topic:   George W. Bush's qualifications to be President
crashfrog
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Message 11 of 247 (134837)
08-18-2004 1:17 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by jar
08-18-2004 1:14 AM


I think the saddest thing is that neither candidate is what one might call outstanding.
If Bush wasn't so dangerously electable - in other words, if his failures stuck to him the way they do to normal politicians - we'd have a better opponent than Kerry; somebody who could advance those positions that are right but unpopular.
As it is, though, Kerry's what we have because Kerry's the only one who can beat him. I would have preferred Dean.

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crashfrog
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Message 64 of 247 (135878)
08-21-2004 1:56 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Mammuthus
08-18-2004 4:51 AM


I love how people claim to run as "outsider" when they are part of the political establishment.
Bush might actually have a valid claim to the term "outsider". Seeing as how he has, after all, spent a great deal of his term outside his office, on vacation.

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crashfrog
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Message 79 of 247 (136922)
08-26-2004 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by johnfolton
08-26-2004 12:20 AM


ever since his calmness in fire after the 911 affair
Heh, "calm", that's one way to put it.
Another way to put it would be "displaying a criminal disinterest in the situation."

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crashfrog
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Message 86 of 247 (137001)
08-26-2004 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by Silent H
08-26-2004 4:45 AM


The Picking of the Nits
You oughta watch baseless charges like that, there is such a thing as slander.
I think the burden of proof for proving slander charges against public figures is so much different than against private citizens that generally, slander/libel suits are all but useless.
(Isn't it libel, anyway, being as it's in print?)
But yeah. Aren't we all tired of Whatever's stupid repetitions? I know I am.

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crashfrog
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Message 132 of 247 (138416)
08-31-2004 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by RAZD
08-31-2004 10:15 AM


Re: Nobel Prize winners endorse Kerry
unfortunately that probably would negatively influence a lot of people ...
I dunno.
Americans have a weird relationship with the intellectual community; we respect intelligence and expertise but we love seeing eggheads find out that they're not as smart as they thought they were.
Getting the Nobel Prize, though, means you are as smart as you think you are. I've never heard anyone dis a Nobel Prize winner.
Like on the West Wing, I'd like to see a President with a Nobel Prize, possibly in Economics, Medicine, or Literature. (Physics might be a reach.)I'd love to see that guy run against Bush - "I have a Nobel Prize in Medicine. How many Nobel Prizes does Bush have? Oh, right. None."
Then again I'd imagine a 527 group called "Swift Doctors for Truth" or something would claim to have been in Stockholm around the time the candidate recieved his prize and try to convince people that what he actually got was a fake prize from Kinko's.

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crashfrog
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Message 148 of 247 (138691)
09-01-2004 12:45 AM


Out of curiosity, Republicans...
... but what exactly is Bush's agenda for the next four years?
What's he going to do about health care costs and the right of patients to sue their HMO's for denial of care?
What's he going to do about the sluggish economy? How many more tax cuts can he offer if he's got an occupation in Iraq to fund?
What's his plan for fighting the war on terror, assuming he even believes that it's a winnable war?
I'm watching the RNC, and all I see is "Kerry this, Kerry that." Just like Bush's website. What's the deal? How does Bush expect to run a campaign based just on "anybody but Kerry"?
Did he maybe forget that he's been the president for the last 4 years? Exactly when is he going to bring up his record instead of the made-up failings of his opponent?

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crashfrog
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Message 160 of 247 (138830)
09-01-2004 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by berberry
09-01-2004 3:33 AM


I think it's quite the other way round.
Well then you haven't been watching or reading about the RNC, I guess. Or seen Bush's webpage.
Bush's webpage mentions Kerry more than Kerry's webpage mentions Kerry. Bush doesn't appear on Kerry's webpage.
It's not hard to see who's running on their own strengths as a candidate and who's running on a platform of "the other guy is a waffling Massachusets liberal."
I agree that many people support Kerry because he's Bush's opponent, and that's a valid reason to vote. But that's not the platform Kerry is running on.

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crashfrog
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Message 171 of 247 (139008)
09-01-2004 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Jackal25
09-01-2004 6:12 PM


I am not one of them, but I think they deserve a tax break for taking care of oh i dont know 84 percent of the tax load.
Really?
I know that the wealthy enjoy considerably greater access to government services and representatives than I do. The governor of Missouri doesn't give a good goddamn what I think; but if I was in a position to donate millions to his campaign, I know he'd take my call personally.
There's about a thousand examples of the rich enjoying better treatment from the government than I do; I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to pay more for it. It's just their fair share, after all.

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crashfrog
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Message 173 of 247 (139058)
09-02-2004 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by RAZD
09-02-2004 12:51 AM


Put it this way -- it is a user fee for being in the country that allows them to be that wealthy.
Not exactly.
I don't propose to tax every rich person simply because some how I "allowed" them to get rich. I'm not claiming to have any part in the creation of their wealth.
But the police would take considerably greater interest if Bill Gates' house were robbed or his daughter raped; much greater interest that if that were to happen to me or mine.
If I get caught smoking marijuana, I go to jail. Manditory sentencing, etc. On the other hand, Bill Gates' daughter would get some bullshit community service or whatever.
We all have heard of "celebrity justice", etc. It's a very real privledge of being wealthy and affluent. I don't think its unreasonable to exact a tax surcharge for that privledge.
Paying for what you use. Isn't that the American way? Well, the rich use more than the rest of us.

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crashfrog
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Message 175 of 247 (139066)
09-02-2004 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by ThingsChange
09-02-2004 1:23 AM


It's the people's power to stick it to them as much as they can take (and the people don't feel too guilty), and the wealthy's power to try to hold on.
Well, ok, fuck the rich. I can work with that.

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crashfrog
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Message 198 of 247 (141297)
09-09-2004 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by berberry
09-09-2004 4:18 PM


I'd prefer the tax to be levied on income, not gasoline.
Yes, I agree. Gas taxes tend to be very regressive, as fuel costs are a larger percentage of a low-income person's income. Also, low-income persons are not often able to afford fuel-efficient vehicles, so they pay even more.

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crashfrog
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Message 213 of 247 (141715)
09-12-2004 3:56 AM
Reply to: Message 212 by johnfolton
09-12-2004 3:39 AM


I couldn't find in the Constitution where the woman has the right to murder her unborn child
I guess you didn't read hard enough - it's the Ninth amendment.

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crashfrog
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Message 237 of 247 (141894)
09-12-2004 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by johnfolton
09-12-2004 8:12 PM


Re: George Washington assuring Congress will protect the religion of Jesus Christ
Obviously Congress will protect the rights of Christians; they're guaranteed their religious freedom under the same amendment that protects the Buddists, the Muslims, and everybody else.

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crashfrog
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Message 240 of 247 (141920)
09-12-2004 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by johnfolton
09-12-2004 8:44 PM


You all seem to support my right to prevent a gay in the clergy, from being a boy scout camp leader because its against my religious belief
What about their religious beliefs? The ones that say that it's ok for a gay man to be a member of the clergy or a Boy Scout leader?
but they should respect my right to be righteous still or holy still, etc
You're absolutely right. No one should force you to have gay intercourse.
Short of that, though, your religious beliefs are not being infringed.

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crashfrog
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Message 242 of 247 (141929)
09-12-2004 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by johnfolton
09-12-2004 1:59 PM


The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Right, that's exactly it. That's where it says women have the right to have abortions.

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