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Author Topic:   George W. Bush's qualifications to be President
Minnemooseus
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Message 1 of 247 (134528)
08-17-2004 12:30 AM


Whatever has been arguing that John Kerry is unqualified to be President.
His current most recent message at the New Book: Kerry ‘Unfit for Command’ topic is message 66.
So Whatever, what are George W. Bushes qualities that make him superior to John Kerry?
Moose

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Message 2 of 247 (134604)
08-17-2004 7:06 AM


Born to the right family?

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Message 3 of 247 (134610)
08-17-2004 7:41 AM
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08-17-2004 12:30 AM


Four years experience?

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Message 4 of 247 (134611)
08-17-2004 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
08-17-2004 12:30 AM


Are any qualifications, at all, required to be a good president? I mean look at Ronald Reagan.

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Message 5 of 247 (134615)
08-17-2004 8:13 AM
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08-17-2004 7:47 AM


It might help if we had a president who was more concerned with the welfare of the country than the welfare of his wealthy lobbyists or his own wallet. Of course this applies to all presidents past and present...

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Message 6 of 247 (134624)
08-17-2004 9:00 AM
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08-17-2004 12:30 AM


Gimme a Dubya
1) Middle initial. This is very executive branch, if you ask me.
2) His unwillingness to finish out his Air National Guard stint tells us he's a man who doesn't let himself be sidetracked from reaching his goals and realizing his dreams. This also means he may be less emotionally averse to the prospect of war, since his objectivity is untainted by personal experience in armed conflict. But we may never know.
3) His familiarity and friendliness with powerful people in Saudi Arabia have certainly precluded the possibility that rich Saudis could fund terrorism against the USA. I'm sure we would know right away who's giving support to terrorist organizations, and Bush would definitely have the culprits and their families ostracized by the good peaceful Saudi people. In addition, our constructive engagement in the political milieu of the Arabian peninsula has certainly helped democracy and human rights flourish there.
regards,
Esteban Hambre

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Message 7 of 247 (134628)
08-17-2004 9:13 AM
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08-17-2004 7:41 AM


Four years experience?
The problem with experience is that in order to gain any you have to be willing to objectively handle evidence, and admit when you are wrong.
He has yet to admit one thing is wrong with anything he or members of his administration have done... that is in spite of volumes of evidence to the contrary.
All I can tell is he's spending 4 years in an office proclaiming the same thing over and over again. What has he learned? Oh yeah "the lessons" of 9-11, which are follow the plans he already had before 9-11.
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Message 8 of 247 (134716)
08-17-2004 2:55 PM
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08-17-2004 7:41 AM


Four years experience?
Minus a year or so of vacation...
Logically, his biggest "qualification" was likely his father; psychologically his biggest "qualification" is that he is apparently charismatic and trust worthy to 49% of the population (properly distributed), a 49% who continue to trust him despite near constant dishonesty and failure.

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Message 9 of 247 (134833)
08-18-2004 1:06 AM


I started this topic last night, about 24 hours ago.
Somehow, considering the topic title, I was expecting that there was still going to be only one message 12 hours later.
Off-topic (or is it?):
Have you all done the Google search for "weapons of mass destruction"? Do it, and check out the link at the top of the list. Or if you wish to skip the actual search, that link is http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Moose
{Edited for the usual change ID from the admin mode - Moose}
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Message 10 of 247 (134835)
08-18-2004 1:14 AM
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08-18-2004 1:06 AM


I think the saddest thing is that neither candidate is what one might call outstanding. In fact, IMHO, the only reasonable candidates we've had since Kennedy were Humphrey, Nixon (and he turned out to be a great disappointment), Ford, Goldwater and Dole. And Bob Dole sold out during the campaign.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 11 of 247 (134837)
08-18-2004 1:17 AM
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08-18-2004 1:14 AM


I think the saddest thing is that neither candidate is what one might call outstanding.
If Bush wasn't so dangerously electable - in other words, if his failures stuck to him the way they do to normal politicians - we'd have a better opponent than Kerry; somebody who could advance those positions that are right but unpopular.
As it is, though, Kerry's what we have because Kerry's the only one who can beat him. I would have preferred Dean.

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Message 12 of 247 (134862)
08-18-2004 4:43 AM
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08-18-2004 1:17 AM


Select a Candidate
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http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/contentPlay/shockwave.jsp?...
From Cal-ee-fornya!

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Message 13 of 247 (134863)
08-18-2004 4:51 AM
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08-18-2004 1:17 AM


I think it is a sadder testament to modern US politics that in order to be even considered for candidacy, one has to be wealthy and/or extremely well connected within the system. I love how people claim to run as "outsider" when they are part of the political establishment. I really doubt Dean would have been much different ultimately. Though not confined to the US, most elections outside of local government are a choice between sucky candidate A or suckier candidate B.

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Message 14 of 247 (134864)
08-18-2004 5:37 AM
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08-18-2004 4:51 AM


John Kerry is related to the Queen...
...see Americans want a return to the glory days of being a British colony really.

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Message 15 of 247 (134871)
08-18-2004 6:08 AM
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08-18-2004 4:51 AM


I think Crash is right that Dean would have been different. While he was certainly well off financially, his background and politics were pretty different... as in independent.
He was vocally anti-war and he was vocally anti-Israeli policies. He also had a wife that would be unlike ANY first lady we'd ever have had.
And of course he was not "camera friendly" in that he was open to enthusiasm about what he does. So he didn't look pre-programmed.
I think in this race pretty much ANYONE looks better than candidate B(ush), so it's a no-brainer for me this time. But I would have preferred Dean.
BTW, was anyone else startled by Sharpton's sudden maturity in debating this year? He looked like a completely new man to me. Yeah he still had some of his race bating tricks, but some of his analyses were well put together and delivered with a lack of animosity that seemed uncharacteristic of his early days.

holmes
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