What is a Liberal, and What is a Conservative?

economic: -5.50 to -5.62
social: -4.82 to -4.92skeptical of accuracy regarding exact position: +6.00
skeptical of accuracy to deliver relative standing between individuals: -6.50Kerry: +4.0
Bush: -4.0Spinning out of control: -$

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

While I question it's accuracy, I am unsure how you came to the conclusion of bias, especially by just looking at one page.Could you explain how you judged this, and why you felt one page was as good as the rest when each page had different topics and what appeared to be styles of question?

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Just to let you know, I am not in complete disagreement with your assessment of certain statements, but rather the implication of bias. Check out my reply to your post over in the new thread Nosy started for this topic.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

I answer that first question in my response to your reply in this thread, over in the thread opened for this topic.In a way I also address the concluding statement. You would not promote the bias of the survey if you state that the results do not reflect your position and explain what the problems are.That is what I did. I do not believe that "test" accurately gauged my political position in a truly objective sense, but I think it did an okay job putting me relative to others in a political spectrum.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

I agree with your general attitude toward social surveys, they certainly can bias results by the nature of the questions.HOWEVER, this is a survey about one's personal preferences and so they are pretty much quoting biased views and grading your political orientation based on your reaction to them.This does not force one to choose something they life because it is worded in a way that make you feel bad for making a selection. Indeed your reactions, and buz's seem to indicate you should have a much easier time answering the questions than I did, because such extremist language can often be read one way or another and I can't say which direction I fall on it.Obviously they COULD have used neutral position statements and gauged where you stand from departure from the neutral, but there is no problem in measuring departure from varying extreme positions.I have to say I would have preferred more neutral language because it would have made things clearer what was being asked.Yours was definitely clearer, though I think you were wrong in identifying consumers and producers as the proper choice. Producers would include those actually MAKING products, and I think this was supposed to suggest just the financial investors and corporate leadership of the producers.That would not make it biased, but create a neutral sounding choice.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

I suppose your statements could be reworded to fit the analogies the GOP uses.Conservative: It is better not to switch horses mid course... (especially when it's our time honored horse).Liberal: It is when he's he keeps going the wrong way.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

See, now you're just being silly. The statement could have been made more value neutral, but it doesn't have to make no statement at all.The point was to get YOUR reaction of where the fruits of greater global integration of business should end up. They CAN separate the upper management and the investors, from the rest, to ask what your opinion is.As a separate question though, are you seriously suggesting to me that investors and the upper management are NOT the major recipients of income from major national corporations, much less the focus of whose interests these corporations are serving?

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Yeah, that's why I corrected your improved statement, just to be more clear what they were really trying to express.I am still not sure why you decided to attack that with a sermon on economics. I'm just the messenger.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)