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Author Topic:   What is a Liberal, and What is a Conservative?
RAZD
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Message 46 of 254 (138010)
08-30-2004 1:38 AM
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08-30-2004 1:04 AM


Re: WWJD
well someone has to do it! how else would the conservatives know {who\what} to be offended by?
heh.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
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Message 47 of 254 (138011)
08-30-2004 1:39 AM
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08-29-2004 2:36 PM


Economic -6.75
Social -5.13
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RAZD
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Message 48 of 254 (138012)
08-30-2004 1:40 AM
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08-30-2004 1:26 AM


Re: WWJD according to Hoyle
tell it to whatever ...
and a general overlapping splash of data on the graph would prove your assumption ... if the point data is provided ...

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Mammuthus
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Message 49 of 254 (138032)
08-30-2004 5:26 AM


Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

  
Primordial Egg
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Message 50 of 254 (138033)
08-30-2004 5:54 AM


Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

  
Silent H
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Message 51 of 254 (138041)
08-30-2004 8:32 AM


economic: -5.50 to -5.62
social: -4.82 to -4.92
skeptical of accuracy regarding exact position: +6.00
skeptical of accuracy to deliver relative standing between individuals: -6.50
Kerry: +4.0
Bush: -4.0
Spinning out of control: -$

holmes
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Buzsaw
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Message 52 of 254 (138065)
08-30-2004 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by NosyNed
08-29-2004 11:55 PM


Re: And the grid Buz?
Did you check out your grid position?
Do you agree with the one given for Jesus?
1. I was rather more interested in addressing the topic which is a question rather than a survey. This thread is generally running off topic, imo.
2. I agree with Darwin Storm. I read off the questions in page one and considered what I saw to be so biased and politically motivated that I declined to participate.

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nator
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Message 53 of 254 (138073)
08-30-2004 11:22 AM
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08-29-2004 2:36 PM


I am down around where the Dali Lama is located.
-6.25 and -7.74
Cool site, thanks Asgara.
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RAZD
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Message 54 of 254 (138081)
08-30-2004 11:35 AM
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08-30-2004 11:06 AM


Re: And the grid Buz?
funny, it seems that conservatives have no trouble labeling people as liberal as if it is an insult. but when it comes to putting their chips down on the table they decline to play.
If it has a liberal bias wouldn't that show in the results? Personally I found a lot of question were leading to a more conservative position than I felt was justified, so perhaps it is just your biases lodged in your eyes.

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Message 55 of 254 (138082)
08-30-2004 11:36 AM
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08-30-2004 11:06 AM


Re: And the grid Buz?
You're right that it is off the topic. I"m not sure there was much to say on the topic anyway. Few have made any comments.
You might have an idea for another thread regarding the appropriateness of the questions.

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nator
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Message 56 of 254 (138092)
08-30-2004 11:47 AM
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08-30-2004 11:06 AM


Re: And the grid Buz?
quote:
I read off the questions in page one and considered what I saw to be so biased and politically motivated that I declined to participate.
Don't worry, buz, I went ahead and did the survey for you.
You scores:
Economic Left/Right: 5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 7.18
You scored in the same range as Margaret Thatcher and Ariel Sharon.

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Silent H
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Message 57 of 254 (138115)
08-30-2004 12:58 PM
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08-30-2004 11:06 AM


Re: And the grid Buz?
I read off the questions in page one and considered what I saw to be so biased and politically motivated that I declined to participate.
While I question it's accuracy, I am unsure how you came to the conclusion of bias, especially by just looking at one page.
Could you explain how you judged this, and why you felt one page was as good as the rest when each page had different topics and what appeared to be styles of question?

holmes
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joshua221 
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Message 58 of 254 (138136)
08-30-2004 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by RAZD
08-29-2004 11:31 PM


Re: WWJD
I'm not saying he wouldn't turn out to be a liberal, The questions would make Ronald Reagan a liberal.

"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ephesians 5:14

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joshua221 
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Message 59 of 254 (138139)
08-30-2004 2:11 PM
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08-30-2004 11:35 AM


Re: And the grid Buz?
quote:
If it has a liberal bias wouldn't that show in the results? Personally I found a lot of question were leading to a more conservative position than I felt was justified, so perhaps it is just your biases lodged in your eyes.
I seriously doubt that, If we analyzed the questions one by one, the liberal bias would be obvious...

"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ephesians 5:14

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joshua221 
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Message 60 of 254 (138141)
08-30-2004 2:12 PM
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08-30-2004 2:11 PM


IRe: And the grid Buz?
I have given nice examples also.
In previous replys above.

"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
Ephesians 5:14

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