Earth science curriculum tailored to fit wavering fundamentalists

Oh edgy edgy, you have developed the most remarkable protective strategies of them all. Too bad geologists don't share a gene pool that yours could contribute to. You just never "get it," SO simple.

And after the bag / the sediment slab luggage gets packed it all just stops and stays that way until another earth landscape develops. But ya know that raises more problems. We've got this flat rock that extends across the continent. Where's the sediment going to come from to create the next time period / landscape? It's going to rise up like a phoenix out of the ashes on top of this slab that's already there, stick around long enough for something like, oh, maybe, dinosaurs, to roam around a bit, and then eventually erode down to a new slab of rock of a different sediment with dinosaur fossils in it. Then somehow a completely different landscape has to rise out of the ether on top of that one.The amount of sediment in the entire Geologic Column must be pretty impressive. Did it all come out of the ocean which for some reason rose and fell by some enormous volume at various times in earth's history, to deposit stuff on the previous slab of rock that crosses the whole continent? Funny how y'all have a problem with the amount of water the Flood would have required but no problem at all with the same amount of water coming out of nowhere every few hundred million years to drop a new sediment on the land, and nobody asks in that bizarre scenario where it all went.But then if it's sediment deposited on sediment, where are all these time period landscapes coming from?Yeah let's hear the next Rube Goldberg explanation.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Okey dokey. Mountains eh. Source of sediment for the rock slabs that represent entire worldwide landscapes with flora and fauna that last hundreds of millions of years, eh? All one kind of sediment in most cases too. Mountains do that. They contain enough of this one kind of sediment to cover an entire continent with a sediment layer that becomes a particular kind of rock sometimes hundreds of feet thick.I knew you could come up with a good rationalization.Now tell us where the mountains came from when all there is on the surface of the earth is the slab of rock from the previous time period, that as far as we can tell stayed a slab of rock until recent time when canyons were cut into the whole stack for the very first time in history, and the layers were truncated and huge chunks eroded away.Except of course for a "canyon" or two that was carved out of a slab deep in the earth after all the slabs were in place.But you have to GET some mountains there in between say the Juirassic and the Triassic so you'll have enough sediment to bury the dinosaurs in after they've roamed around for a few million years on top of the previous slab of rock.Go.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No, what Faith says is that there is no" erosion" within the geologic column that deserves to be compared with the massive erosion of the surface we now live on, and that fact proves the stack does not represent former time periods.The erosion in Noah's time contributed the sediments that formed the geologic column in the Flood of course.

And then those dinosaurs that roamed around on top of the previous slab of rock/ time period, ate what? Something gigantic with deep roots wouldn't you suppose: Deep enough to reach down into, say, the Permian or even deeper than that? Funny we don't find tree roots in those layers though.I'm just trying to understand how all those time periods supposedly with the same kind iof topography we have today, got compressed into neat flat packages of rock of particular kinds of sediment, and where the stuff needed to form the next landscape with similar topography could come from.

OK, sure, marine sediment needed to supplement the inadequate amount of sediment from the mountains. That would account for the limestones at least, thick thick slabs of limestones that the dinosaurs roamed around on? We aren't getting a landscape out of any of tnis, though, are we? Lots of flat rocks though.The underground canyon needs a special mechanism? How about the same kind of mechanism that carved the Grand Canyon, you know, rushing water that in this case ran between the layers? Rushing water washed away a mile's depth of sediment over the Grand Canyon, scouring its rim down to the Permian. Why should there be a problem with water doing something similar underground, dislodging sediments and\ carving out underground spaces, that even get filled in by more sediment-laden water?

It's easy to say No No No we don't believe that, but how about you describe exactly how it DID happen then? How do you get a new topographically varied landscape to form on top of a slab of rock that represents the previous supposedly topograqphically varied landscape?ABE: Remember we're talking CONTINENT-SPANNING slabs of rock here. Doesn't leave a lot of SPACE, let alone material, for future landscape-building.Come on give it your best Rube Goldberg shot. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yeah, well, ya know HBD, stuff happens. I need a lot more time to digest the weird ideas of population genetics than to deal with the bizarre stuff of strata geology,.

Gosh there must be lots of things water can do that have escaped the understanding of establishment geology, which after all denies the truth of the Flood so can't be counted on to get other things right. Sure seems to me like the stuff I've been pointing out here hasn't been answered at all, and won't be of course, too much at stake.

We're trying to explain how anything like the entire current surface of the earth, massively eroded massive geological structures of various kinds of rocks and sediments, could ever have existed for hundreds of millions of years of previous time periods, how the mountains grew up and then collapsed down and valleys filled in until the whole shebang wrapped up into a slab of rock that spanned an entire continent, and how that scenario got repeated time and time again to create the entire Geologic Column and you think your seismic picture says anything at all about that?ABE: Oh, plus the fact that today's erosion cuts deeply into the previous "time periods" for the first time in history.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There is no such thing as Geological Time.

Just for the record, I have never questioned the standard geological explanation of how mountains were formed tectonically, I've many times included the fact in my own scenarios.Questioning "how mountains are built" is not something I've done either that I know of. On this thread a few posts up, however, I did say this: That is, when all you have is a slab of rock, which would have been the case with any of the strata that extend across the entire continent before the next "time period" came along, and when the slab stayed a slab, which they all did until recent time, there is no source of mountain building to be had. And if there are no mountains there is no landscape, there is only the slab of rock and all the other slabs of rock just stack on top of it until recent time when all the massive erosion occurred that we live on and when the mountains formed too along with the canyons that cut deep into the strata and all the rest of it. I believe this topic is within the allowable subjects.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I've never heard that before about a saline solution interfering with dating methods. Why don't you answer him?

Denial works for you, doesn't it?

Nowhere in that post, or your book, do you explain how the strata formed, those slabs of rock of remarkably specific sedimentary composition, that span entire continents and supposedly represent time periods of hundreds of millions of years, yet this is the backbone of Geological time and Evolution. Funny you skirt around it as you do. Eroding mountains filling in a river valley has to be some kind of joke.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.