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Author Topic:   Earth science curriculum tailored to fit wavering fundamentalists
46&2
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Message 729 of 1053 (760674)
06-24-2015 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 724 by Faith
06-24-2015 11:52 AM


Re: Maps
ONLY AFTER THE WHOLE STACK WAS IN PLACE
Except this is a demonstrably false statement.

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46&2
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Message 731 of 1053 (760676)
06-24-2015 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 728 by Faith
06-24-2015 2:47 PM


Re: Maps
None of the internal erosion or unconformities are anywhere near the scale of things hundreds of millions of years should be expected to produce.
This is a tacit admission that you know your statement was false. Regardless of what you think about the required time to produce such erosion, you know that it exists, and ANY such erosion would be difficult for the flood hypothesis to explain.

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46&2
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Message 733 of 1053 (760678)
06-24-2015 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 730 by Faith
06-24-2015 3:04 PM


Re: Maps
No. You didn't. Certainly not with simply a MAP.
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46&2
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Message 735 of 1053 (760680)
06-24-2015 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 734 by Faith
06-24-2015 3:09 PM


Re: Maps
The only argument possible is what's been given, the supposed internal erosion and unconformities, which are pathetically inadequate answers.
They are perfectly adequate if you can't explain them. Your defense is that it couldn't have taken millions of years...yet, you offer no explanation for them being there AT ALL. How did ANY internal erosion take place if the entire stack was laid down in the flood?
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46&2
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Message 738 of 1053 (760683)
06-24-2015 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 737 by Faith
06-24-2015 3:15 PM


Re: Maps
Silly me. I forgot you would assume that all the internal erosion I was talking about was water erosion. There are plenty of examples of internal, SUB-AERIAL, erosion.
Of course, it was something easy to forget, since sub-aerial erosion must have been what you were talking about in the first place, when you claimed that it only occurred after the stack was built.
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46&2
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Message 741 of 1053 (760688)
06-24-2015 3:56 PM
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06-24-2015 3:47 PM


Re: Maps
Oh yeah, all that minuscule "sub-aerial" erosion.
You're missing the forest for the trees. Even if what you say is true (it's not) that there hasn't been massive sub-aerial erosion in lower layers, your flood cannot explain ANY sub-aerial erosion, even "minuscule."

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Message 743 of 1053 (760691)
06-24-2015 4:06 PM
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06-24-2015 4:01 PM


Re: Maps
Sure it can. Some layers would have been deposited as the waters receded, sub aerially.
This statement doesn't even make any sense. Layers can't be deposited by water, even receding water, AND be sub-aerial at the same time. It's either sub-aerial, or it's covered by water.

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Message 817 of 1053 (760951)
06-26-2015 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 807 by ThinAirDesigns
06-26-2015 2:26 PM


Re: Saline and Carbon Dating
I can't really find a source for his claim, either, after a brief search. I suspect it's a twist on the argument concerning the reservoir effect.

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46&2
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Message 848 of 1053 (761052)
06-27-2015 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 844 by Faith
06-27-2015 10:41 AM


Re: Ah yes, Rationalization is a Wonderful Scientific Tool
There is so much evidence that the strata deposited continuously over a short period of time
There really isn't. Christian geologists, who specifically set out to find evidence of the flood, realized this hundreds of years ago.
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Message 851 of 1053 (761056)
06-27-2015 2:35 PM
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06-27-2015 2:31 PM


Re: Ah yes, Rationalization is a Wonderful Scientific Tool
They were looking in the wrong place.
How could they look in the wrong place? The flood was GLOBAL.

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46&2
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Message 869 of 1053 (761148)
06-28-2015 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 868 by Pollux
06-28-2015 7:35 PM


Re: Source for Saline and Carbon Dating?
I was similarly confused by Coyote's assertion of the creationist tilt of that site, as I undoubtedly saw the same page/s you did, which were reasonable, if amateurish. So I went back to the site, and saw the page he was talking about, and it is very clearly typical creationist propaganda.
Here's the page:
Radio Carbon Dating - Archaeology Expert
Also, the Radiocarbon article you posted is behind a paywall, since it is fairly new-- 2013. I'd eventually like to read the whole article. But being so new, it certainly wasn't the source of the claim, since the video is a couple years older.
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46&2
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Message 890 of 1053 (761916)
07-06-2015 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 889 by ThinAirDesigns
07-06-2015 1:53 PM


Re: Geologic column
Though I am not qualified to vouch for the content of the article, I think it would be interesting to note in your blog that the author, Glen Morton, is a former YEC. Here is an article he wrote about his conversion:
Old Earth Creation Science Testimony - Why I Left Young Earth Creationism, by Glenn Morton
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