Radical Clerics, Christian Morals, and Homosexuality

Phat writes:And I figured that you would take liberty to define what is and is not relevant. That's so you, jar.

Phat writes:Lets talk about chapters of Club Christian for a moment. Should they base their bylaws on the Bible or if not, what should they base them on?

The attitude on this thread is already a form of persecution, Dr. A. It always starts with the namecalling.

There is no argument, Oni One Way

Attraction, like skin color, is inborn. Sexuality is a choice.

We are under no obligation to allow your social or ideological preferences redefine our club bylaws. You are not God.

Have you been smoking too much pot again? You may have overdid it on 4/20.

Oh? Am I ordered to acknowledge your significant other in any greater capacity or homage than anyone else?

Faith writes:Already some pastors have run afoul of Canada's "hate speech" laws for preaching that homosexuality is sin, which is simply preaching God's word.

I am in favor of civil unions, because we live in a secular society and because the church has no right to legislate morality. By the same token, you, Onifre or anyone else has no right to force the church to adapt to your emotionally immature arguments concerning what love is and what marriage is.

Phat writes:Sexuality is a choice.

Phat writes:Attraction, like skin color, is inborn.

Theodoric writes:Sexuality is a primary and basic human behavior. Repression of sexuality can result in all sorts of behavioral issues. But it seems you are ok with people suffering as long as they adhere to your "moral" ideals.

Onifre writes:This is absurd! I can't believe in 2013 you still hold this opinion. Sexuality is not a choice. I didn't choose to be straight. I didn't choose to be attracted to women; I just am.

If the culture forces churches to perform gay marriages, we'll just have to go to jail or whatever penalty is coming down the pike against Christians

Already some pastors have run afoul of Canada's "hate speech" laws for preaching that homosexuality is sin, which is simply preaching God's word. It could come here soon, and by the sound of the hate against us on this thread VERY soon.

To desire a communion with only one person is selfish and irresponsible to the community.

So no one should be monogamous let alone married? I have to admit, such sentiment is a great defense against being called a bigot.

jar writes:The issue of homosexuality is one that our current culture needs to deal with.While many Christians may see it as a sin, there are also many Christians that see it as no more a sin than eating shrimp, cutting your hair, wearing WoolRich clothes or working on the Sabbath. There is little support in the Bible, the most often cited examples being the Pauline passages. But they are ambiguous at best and many Christians acknowledge that Paul was being hypocritical when he spoke on homosexuality.The origin of the Biblical proscription on homosexuality is in the same set of laws that Paul fought to have overturned. Paul was anxious to expand the church and so he willingly took the stand that Laws such as circumcision, dietary restrictions and dress should be set aside as null and void. He was more than willing to resort to most any subterfuge, such as the classic example of the unnamed God, if they helped build his communities.But regardless of whether or not homosexuality is considered a sin or not, the current social contract needs to be changed.If homosexuality is a sin, then it is between the individual and God.Proscribing the social contract relating to homosexuality should not be based on whether or not it is a sin, but on our duty to Love our Neighbor as Ourselves. As Christians we should be working to remove those portions of the social contract that adversely affect homosexuals. We should be opposing the Defence in Marriage Act, limitations on access to health care, inheritance rules, rights of adoption, safety and protection, and seeing that homosexual couples receive all the societal benefits and responsibilities of heterosexual couples.