Obama supports Ground Zero mosque. Religious freedom or is he being too PC?

Good point. Some people are going to hate no matter what. But it might shut matters up enough to get it out of the news, and convince people who aren't sure what is going on to the truth. It will also expose those haters. Isn't that a good thing?Should we just continue letting the haters hate? Like everyone who hates me here, and has framed me to be saying something I am not?

I don't think we are at war, I know it. What I don't know is, who exactly is our enemy. What uniform does he wear? Where does he live? Very true.

Fair enough. Certainly. Of course not, but we already know they are haters that will say anything to slander the other party, they've done so every time before this one. The only thing that an investigation will accomplish is that it is shown once again what kind of dishonest douchebags these people are. Until they accuse the next thing of some slanderous shit. People need to learn that these idiots will say and do anything, and everytime they do, should just shrug and go "ah well, nutters are everywhere".

Well, based on that I'd say that the enemy is the average US Citizen.Edited by jar, : fix sub-titles

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Who is the enemy? This guy, for one:

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) — A well-known Australian Muslim cleric has called for the beheading of Dutch anti-Islamic politician Geert Wilders, a newspaper said on Friday. ... Source

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

All of those passages, which are from the christian bible, instruct followers to kill non-believers. Maybe you should read the book.

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Your god believes in Unicorns

I'm sorry but exactly how is that person "The Enemy"?

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Take a wild guess. Really stretch your imagination and see if you can come up with some reason.

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Well, I can't. Sorry Charlie.The guy may well be a bad person, may well be someone that the Dutch or even the Australian authorities might want to watch, but he is certainly no threat to the US.

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I dunno, I'd say that anyone who actively calls for the beheading (or other form of murder) of another human being is an enemy of civilized society in general.That said, it's far too easy to point at some violence-inciting Muslim cleric and say "that's the enemy," and completely ignore equivalent or worse threats elsewhere. For all that people call this a "war," the global reaction to international terrorism is nothing whatsoever like wars of the past. Iraq is not the enemy. Afghanistan is not the enemy. Saudi Arabia is not the enemy. We could bomb cities all day long and never "win."The biggest mistake made since 9/11 has been the mentality that the "war on terrorism" is about killing the "enemy." It's not. You cannot and will not stop terrorism that way. The real war is the battle to hold onto our cherished principles and way of life in the face of minor but extremely frightening attacks - and of course I say minor because in any objective analysis, driving is more of a threat to the United States than international terrorism, as you'd need a 9/11 event almost daily to cost the same number of lives as those lost each year in car wrecks. The difference between international terrorism and obesity is that terrorism has a lower body count, but is far more scary. And in the war against our own fear, the struggle to retain our freedoms and promote freedom and tolerance throughout the world...well, we're losing, because collectively we're cowards without the courage to take a tiny amount of risk for the sake of what we say we value most.So while I'd certainly say that Mr.-behead-that-government-official is an enemy, the real enemy is our fear of the next attack, the irrational fear that causes us to take irrational action.After all...we killed far more people in Iraq and Afghanistan than any number of terrorists could ever do. We destroyed more infrastructure than any terrorist has ever managed to interrupt. Our response to international terrorism has been not only to strike back at terrorists, but to strike out at anyone who makes us even think about terrorists. And in doing so, we've not only created more of what we call the "enemy," we've also steadily lost battle after battle in the war to retain our values.

See Message 304.

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It might help if fewer Muslims were issuing fatwas and vowing to destroy the Great Satan

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Exactly how many do you think do this? And why is it you seem to ignore it when the Christians do it?

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video of folks dancing in the street when the trade towers went down didn't help.

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You do realize that the video you saw wasn't actually what it was claimed to be, yes?And why didn't you complain when Christians did it? They're still doing it. They just went to court in Kansas to keep doing it...and won.

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And don't forget the violent riots around the world because of the cartoons depicting their prophet.

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As already pointed out...what makes you think those were "riots"? After all, most of the people who died were killed at the hands of the police. It would seem that the biggest problem was the watchers.And why is it when the Christians do it, you don't call them riots?

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If Muslims truly are not aggressive towards non-Muslims, and a religion of peace, perhaps they should start acting like it sometime???

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When you start having some perspective and treat Christians the same way you treat phantom Muslims, then your proclamations about what Muslims "ought" to do might have some validity.

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I don't know, why do some muslims want to be?

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So Taz is a terrorist?Because that's what you're saying.

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Well, those idiots would be them then.

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Same question to you as to onifre:Who are "they"?It's so easy to be against "them" when you don't know who "they" are.

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I am not having a panic attack.

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Did you or did you not say in Message 273: "Sacrificing our safety"? Just what do you think is going to happen if two Muslims are allowed to get together?

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I heard that fox supported it, I did not know it was monetary.

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The #2 shareholder in News Corp (you know...Fox) is putting up the money. Why don't you know this? Did you bother to do any homework before jumping in?

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I agree, Christians are dangerous.

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If you agree, why are you only singling out the Muslims? You'll have your hands full trying to keep up with the Christian crazies.

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And I am not paranoid.

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You mean you didn't write Message 273?

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I am just stating facts.

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What "fact" have you ever stated?

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But there is a reason. That is what I am saying. Haven't you been reading what I said?

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Yes. And you haven't given any reason other than paranoia.

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There is something going on

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Really? What? What, exactly, is going on?Be specific.

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and the people who are wrong, need to be found out.

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And who are these "people" you're willing to shred the Constitution for? It's so easy to be against "them" when you don't have to actually come up with any real people for "them" to be.

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Either the Muslims are wrong, or the people accusing them are wrong. They both need to be investigated, and this stupidity put to rest.

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Why does anybody need to be investigated? Just because you can't keep from hyperventilating?

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It is not right that people can falsely accuse the Muslims like they are, right?

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People are free to be foolish.Why do you think the government needs to be involved?

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