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Author Topic:   Obama supports Ground Zero mosque. Religious freedom or is he being too PC?
Huntard
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Message 19 of 406 (574309)
08-15-2010 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by slevesque
08-15-2010 10:02 AM


slevesque writes:
Pedophile priests aren't pedophile because of their christian beliefs.
Really?
Marc 10:13-16:
quote:
And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.
Seems like Jesus is saying that "touching" little children is the Kingdom of god, and that little children should be "touched".
No, I don't think this is where the priests got their inspiration, but really, anything can be made of holy texts, so if you claim that terrorist Muslims are terrorists because of their book, I'll claim that paedophile Christians are paedophiles because of theirs.

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Message 24 of 406 (574323)
08-15-2010 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Hyroglyphx
08-15-2010 10:34 AM


Hyroglyphx writes:
That's a rather dubious twisting of scripture, don't you think?
Yes, but that was the point. Like I said after that:
Huntard writes:
No, I don't think this is where the priests got their inspiration, but really, anything can be made of holy texts, so if you claim that terrorist Muslims are terrorists because of their book, I'll claim that paedophile Christians are paedophiles because of theirs.

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Message 94 of 406 (576038)
08-22-2010 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by onifre
08-22-2010 2:27 PM


onifre writes:
I don't see how this addresses my point. The prophet has been censored on TV because it is offensive to muslims to show his image, however on the same show (South Park) they showed, I think, George Bush taking a shit on Jesus.
Not entirely correct. They showed Jesus shitting on Bush and the US Flag. Also, it's not because it is offensive that they don't show it, it's because they're pussies who are afraid fucktards will do something to them if they do show it.
It seems hypocritical. Why should we give a shit about how muslims feel when it comes to their prophet's image, but then they don't give a shit when it comes to the feelings of those who find the mosque offensive?
Like I said, it's not that they care about the feelings of Muslims, they are afraid somebody will hurt them if they do show it.

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Message 137 of 406 (576169)
08-23-2010 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by crashfrog
08-22-2010 11:54 PM


They did take it offline though, bastards, every other episode can still be seen.
Anyway, this is what he looked like in the episode:
So yeah, they did air it before, and only when they felt like some big bad man would spank them for it, did they choose not to. Fucking pussies.

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Message 142 of 406 (576238)
08-23-2010 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 141 by hooah212002
08-23-2010 10:59 AM


Re: What ARE the protestors protesting about?
hooah212002 writes:
I saw a video yesterday about the protest. A black guy walked through the crowd and was harrased because they thought he was a muslim. He wasn't. He was apparently just a contractor. He was wearing a do-rag, so they must have mistaken it for a Taqiyah. I am at work and since Youtube is blocked, I am unable to link to it.
Here you go:
Linky
Are they really just protesting the "sanctity" of the site? I mean, the whole crowd started screaming at this guy....
Of course not, that's just a convenient excuse.

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Huntard
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Message 148 of 406 (576258)
08-23-2010 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by onifre
08-23-2010 1:19 PM


Onifre writes:
If I recall, they also censored the Scientology episode too.
Not when originally airing it, and it is still available online. Though that episode did lead to Isaac Hayes (Chef) leaving the series. On which they did a very good episode as well.

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Message 150 of 406 (576284)
08-23-2010 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Tram law
08-23-2010 3:21 PM


Re: Cordoba
Tram law writes:
In some parts of the world, especially in the Middle East, Mosques only allow non-Muslims in.
That doesn't sound quite right. Are you sure about this?

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Message 151 of 406 (576285)
08-23-2010 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Tram law
08-23-2010 3:21 PM


Re: Cordoba
Tram law writes:
And yes, I'd like to see part two of South Park episode 200. Comedy Central won't even release the episode or others that have followed after it to the website.
They are called torrents.

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Message 155 of 406 (576296)
08-23-2010 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Tram law
08-23-2010 3:57 PM


Tram law writes:
I know about torrents, but the thing is I'm very cautious about going to many sites like those because they are often attack sites.
That one's safe, but if you don't want to use torrents, how do you feel about Rapidshare?

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Message 157 of 406 (576298)
08-23-2010 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Tram law
08-23-2010 4:01 PM


Re: Cordoba
But you are saying that they only allow non-muslims, in other words, muslims are not welcome in their own mosques. That would be extremely weird.

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Message 158 of 406 (576309)
08-23-2010 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Theodoric
08-23-2010 4:04 PM


Re: Mosques
Theodoric writes:
I have been in a couple of Mosques in Jerusalem. most notably Al Aqsa.
Well yes, I know they allow non-muslims in them, but only?
I get it. He made a typo
In some parts of the world, especially in the Middle East, Mosques only allow non-Muslims in.
At least I hope it is a typo.
Yeah, me too.

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Message 175 of 406 (576411)
08-24-2010 1:58 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by Tram law
08-23-2010 5:36 PM


Re: Cordoba
Tram law writes:
Did you read the wiki quote?
And I am saying some mosques, not each and every single one of them.
For example, The Dome Of The Rock allows limited and restricted access:
Yes, I know all of this. The problem is in your Message 149 you say:
Tram law writes:
In some parts of the world, especially in the Middle East, Mosques only allow non-Muslims in.
The "only" you put there means that no muslim is allowed to enter the mosque, which would be extremely weird, since a mosque is where muslims normally pray and stuff. I know they sometimes allow non-muslims inside. But surely not only.

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Huntard
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Message 181 of 406 (576544)
08-24-2010 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Tram law
08-24-2010 12:56 PM


Re: Cordoba
Tram law writes:
Yeah, that's a typo. Sorry.
Let's try it like this:
Some mosques do not allow non-Muslims in.
Is that better?
Yeah thought so, just wanted to clear that up.

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Message 197 of 406 (576578)
08-24-2010 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by onifre
08-24-2010 2:04 PM


onifre writes:
CC did pull the episode from their normal tv, you can see it on the website though.
Which one would that be? The one in which they originally showed mohammed (Super Best Friends) was aired normally, it is not available on their website, however. Every other episode that had mohammed in it was censored but aired, and can be seen in censored form on their webiste.
You know what's really funny? Ever since "Super Best Friends" mohammed was depicted on every single South Park show, he's one of the many characters you see at the ending of the opening theme.
Here's a picture (Mohammed is the one with the little red box around it on the right side, under Satan):

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Huntard
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Message 200 of 406 (576586)
08-24-2010 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by onifre
08-24-2010 4:47 PM


onifre writes:
Super Best Friends, which you're right, can't even be seen on their website. The ONLY reason they originally aired it was because it was a pre-9/11 and Danish cartoonist time when shit wasn't so tense. But it has since been taken off.
It was taken off only after the "200" and "201" episodes, which was in april this year. Before that, it could be seen. So, only after CC became utter pussies did they remove the episode. Not after their first "mohammed controversy", in which they censored South Park showing Mohammed, and to which the Jesus shitting thing was a response (episode "Cartoon Wars Part II"), which was aired in april 2006 after the "cartoon riots" in regards to that Danish fellow.
So, even after their first attempt to show mohammed, the original "Super Best Friends" stayed available online for 4 more years.
Not wanting to offend muslims my ass! They pussied out.

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