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Topic: Separation of Church and State
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Re: final thoughts
I would suggest studying the church as described in Acts and the Gospels.
Why would we do that? We're talking about the True Church here not that laughable christianity.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Re: The United State Was Founded As A Heathen Nation That Disowned God
and make it a criminal offense for any government official to trespass on the jurisidiction of the Almighty.
And which Almighty would that be? The One True Lord of Lords, King of Kings Odin the Allfather or some imposter?
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Re: The United State Was Founded As A Heathen Nation That Disowned God
How would you define the jurisdiction of this creator without first defining her?
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Re: The United State Was Founded As A Heathen Nation That Disowned God
That didn't answer my question at all. How do you define the "jurisdiction of the creator" without first defining "the creator"? This message has been edited by DrJones*, 04-23-2006 04:07 PM
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Fine then provide a definition of the "jurisdiction of the creator". Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 256 of 305 (328005)
07-01-2006 1:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 253 by riVeRraT
07-01-2006 9:57 AM
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Re: If you had kids,..... - Like ME
The Power Team is a ministry that preaches the gospel. They go to local schools across the nation. They have been in about 20,000 of them. They are never allowed to mention the word God. They have to teach Christian principals without saying the word Christ or God.
They're lucky that they've been allowed to do that much. Using public funds to bring in "a ministry that preaches the gospel" seems to me to be a pretty clear violation of the seperation of church and state.
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 260 of 305 (328011)
07-01-2006 1:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 258 by riVeRraT
07-01-2006 1:16 PM
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Re: If you had kids,..... - Like ME
if you read the link, you would know that it is funded by local busnisess
Is it a voluntary activity? Can the students choose to not be exposed to this ministry?
Theology is a course in school, is it not?
In some schools, yes there is a comparative religions or something similar, and if there is a course like that at your school then I see nothing wrong wtih the group coming in to that course to talk about their religion, along as it is balanced out by other religious grous doing the same. But if you're having a school assembly (like what would happpen if there was an anti-smoking group) to expose all the kids to this ministry then you're using public funds for the promotion of a religion. Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 270 of 305 (328147)
07-01-2006 9:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 266 by riVeRraT
07-01-2006 8:27 PM
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Re: If you had kids,..... - Like ME
That is a good question. They can choose not to believe.
That wasn't the question. Can they choose to not be exposed to this ministry?
Not promotion, education of. The school can stand there and say, we are not promoting this, we are just showing what it is.
So you support Muslims, Hindus, Sihks, Satanists coming into your school and using public money (taxes are paying for the school) to show your children what their religion is?
Choosing to follow Jesus is a free choice, and would never be forced on anyone.
But you're forcing children to be exposed to Jesus. A mandatory school assembly is not a free choice.
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 286 of 305 (328371)
07-02-2006 10:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 283 by riVeRraT
07-02-2006 10:38 PM
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Re: If you had kids,..... - Like ME
They can't choose the way it is now.
So you're in favor of forcing children to be exposed in school to religions that their parent's might not approve of?
That is entirely different from choosing Jesus in your heart. IT must be a FREE choice.
Not the point. The point is freedom of religion, which is also freedom from religion, why should my tax dollars go to exposing my children to a religion that is a lie?
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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