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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 4 of 305 (265387)
12-04-2005 1:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
12-03-2005 11:06 AM


*coughs*
fourteenth amendment.
congress doesn't have to make a law anymore. state and local governments (including school boards) are bound to the federal constitution by the fourteenth amendment. therefore, they cannot institute the teaching of a religion.
i appreciate that you made the distiction between teaching religion and teaching about religion. there needs to be more teaching about religion... both in general (mob psychology) and in particular.

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Message 70 of 305 (269320)
12-14-2005 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Hangdawg13
12-14-2005 1:31 AM


Re: Abolish Public Schools
the government has a vested interest in an educated populous. thus, the government has a reason to involve itself in the public school system. since it funds this, it can't sponsor religious education.

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Message 88 of 305 (269456)
12-14-2005 8:43 PM
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12-14-2005 8:00 PM


Re: Abolish Public Schools
When a government's interests are no longer the people's (or the people's interests are shaped by the government to support the government's interests) the government's sole "reason" for increased involvement is to increase its power.
this is a matter of opinion.
right now, no. about 6 years ago? absolutely.
what i meant is not what you're taking it as. an uneducated populous is useless to support a republic. our job is to elect people who form our laws. you're taking this democracy thing way too seriously. we don't have one. we never have. federal republic. we pick them; they make laws; if we don't like the laws, we kick them out. we have to be smart enough to make sure we pick good representatives. it's in the government's interest to preserve smart people. if the government is taken over by someone because we aren't smart enough to get rid of them, the system is shattered and the government loses.
further, religious education doesn't tend to create critical thinkers. sorry, it just doesn't. besides. no one is forcing you to put your kids in public schools. if you don't like our public education science classrooms, put your kids in private school. that's what democratic-type countries are all about: opt-in social programs, deal.
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Message 147 of 305 (269715)
12-15-2005 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Faith
12-15-2005 12:44 PM


Re: Coming out of hiding
if the proper environment for a young christian is a christian one, then don't put your children in public school.

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