George W. Bush's qualifications to be President

George is an american hero, ever since his calmness in fire after the 911 affair, his handling of China when they took control of our plane, North Korea threatening George to send a nuke our way, while George calmly developed lasers to shoot them down against UN directives, with complaints by China, & Russia. Now North Korea is not an issue cause of the leadership of George W Bush. We are extremely blessed to have someone of Georges leadership, Kerry for whatever reasons, has shown to be a traitor, aiding north vietnamese propaganda, selling hardened chip satellight technology to china, ever since his leaving the service, he continually has been aiding and comforting the enemy, why, like his attacks on Rumsfeld, one of America's finest, likely cause Rumsfeld has no place in Kerrys New world order administration that will be about putting American soldiers under UN terrorist generals control, can one imagine how many soldiers would of perished in Iraq, Afganistan if they were controlled by Iraq generals under UN control, and not under Rumsfeld directives.P.S. Truly Kerry attacks on Rumsfeld, while sounding a bit like his Vietnamese days of aiding comfort to the enemy, which is a crime of treason, etc... Kerry is not the man to lead the nation, not only is he not a hero, he is guilty of treason, in my opinion. To be aiding comfort to the enemy, Iraq prisoners, and etc... He didn't care much for our prisoners in the Vietnam war, calling our soldiers baby killers, and cause of this treason Kerry lost all credibility of being an american hero, though you could call him a communist hero, in the North Vietnamese museum.P.S. Why do you think the Vets that knew Kerry that are not Republican, so fearful of a Kerry administration, do they not fear he will put our troops under terrorist nations generals to command, under United Nations directive's, and who will foot the bill, but american taxpayers. It's far better to vote for GWB who has consitently been protecting American interests, against United Nations directives, that to vote for Kerry who would put American citizens where World Law would be soverign over US law, with UN troops under terrorist generals command not bound by US law, and our citizens not protected by US law where UN World Law will be soverign, etc...Razd, There are two roads, one protect us and ours, and the other gives us and our to others control. Kerry is simply a pawn of the New World Order, which is why he has no interest in being attentive within the Intelligence Committe meetings, cause he plans to send ours to the UN to fight terrorist, by using terrorist to command our troops, to take his treason to a higher level, etc... George record is not perfect, but Kerry's is attrocious, etc...

Razd, We've all been setup, Bush is not the problem, the problem appears is the globlalist agenda, their Godless UN Charter, their Bill of Rights, all apart of the outsourcing of jobs in their views, to equalize fairness to all the peoples of the earth, etc... It all sounds so good, but the problem its our jobs that they are outsourcing, etc...The US Bill of Rights being authored by God, as witnessed by Thomas Jefferson's proclamation to the Whole World, so your just the opposite side of the same coin, An American for our jobs, and for our Constitution, so in essense we agree, the problem is that Kerry is a globalist, etc...P.S. Keep up the pressure for democrats to say that they are against job outsourcing, and to say that they are about the preservation of the US Constitution, including the US Bill of Rights, etc... but remember that by your saying this, your saying you do not agree with the globalist world agenda, for you, and yours, etc... It cause of this, based on your belief in the US Constitution, one can not vote for Kerry, for he says the one thing and does the other, its what Kerry does, etc...Page not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmMaking a Dent in Liberal Disinformation: Outsourcing Jobs
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Saturday, August 14, 2004Page not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmPage not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmPage not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmPage not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmIts quite refreshing that America was founded on the Christian religion, John Adams saying the US was a Nation of Christians, George Washington even saying the law making Congress would do everything to support the religion of Jesus Christ, I need not repeat TJ announcement to the whole world that the bill of right were taken from the HOLY BIBLE, etc... Mr. Kerry by calling upon the separation of church and state is simply lying to the American people, GWB on the other hand is asking Congress to protect the Sanctity of marriage, and this is what George Washingtons quote was saying its Congress that makes the laws to support the Christian religion, and not the courts to be crafting laws against the Religion of Jesus Christ, etc...http://www.christianparents.com/lrconst.htm"The United States of America were no longer Colonies. They were an independent nation of Christians." John Qunicy Adams" Let...statesmen and patriots unite their endeavors to renovate the age by...educating their little boys and girls...and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system." Samuel Adams" You do well to wish to learn our arts and our ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. Congress will do everything they can to assist you in this wise intention." George Washington"History will also afford frequent opportunities of showing the necessity of a public religion...and the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern." Benjamin FranklinThis message has been edited by whatever, 08-30-2004 01:35 AM

Jar, Here another quote about property to be considered as sacred as the laws of God. The founding fathers had no problem with sacred laws to protect property, the Quote by George Washington in the previous post, shows George believed in Congress protecting the religion of Jesus Christ, and Jefferson saying the right are from God, all notes that our founding fathers drew from the bible in the making of the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution, its simply a lie to say this is not the case and that their is separation of the Church from the government, cause as George Washington, swearing on the bible, and even stating that Congress was to protect the religion of Jesus Christ.http://www.dreamwater.com/raferty/pr_rights.html"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is no force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property must be secured orliberty cannot exist." (Adams, Charles Francis, ed. , "The Works of John Adams, 10 vols. [Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1850-56], 6:9, p. 280.The Preeminence of Higher LawSo let us enter upon a brief reminder: Our rights, our liberties, our best laws are the result of the wisdom of our Forefathers in placing God’s law, above man’s law - literally setting the Biblical law as both the foundation stone, and the keystone in the arch of the great body of American law.Blackstone, the most frequently quoted legal authority, in the early days of our Republic, noted:"Upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered to contradict these. There are, it is true a great number of indifferent points, in which both the divine law and the natural leave a man at his own liberty; but . . . with regard to such points as are not indifferent, human laws are only declaratory of, and act in subordination to, the former."It was upon this same rock solid conviction that Thomas Jefferson declared to all the world:"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness [the right and control of property]. "That is, since God is the author of our Rights - no King or President, no House of Lords or Senate, no House of Commons or House of Representative, no Supreme Court or unelected bureaucrat, can ever abridge those rights.Which leads to Jefferson’s next point: "To secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among men." Or in other words, the whole purpose of government, in the first place, its legitimate role, is to secure the rights of man, "anything more or less than this is tyranny."

I kind of hear you, the thread is about GWB, here is a link to GWB believing our rights are from God, etc... So a bit back on topic, GWB supports Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers mentioning our rights are authored by God.http://www.newsmax.com/...es/articles/2002/6/27/144852.shtmlP.S. Can anyone prove that Jefferson did not say our rights were authored by God, or that George Washington didn't not say that Congress would protect the rights of the religion of Jesus Christ, or that George Washington swear to a man, but he swore an oath to God, not to a man, but to God, using the Bible cause of it contained the laws of the higher power, and so that judges never forget that Gods laws are soverign over mans laws, why swear so help me God, if your not swearing to a power greater than the judge, and thus the swearing in of the bible attests that the founding fathers agreed with George, etc...You raise your right hand and swear to tell the truth so help me God, the swearing in on the HOLY BIBLE, etc...George Washington was the first President swearing in, on the Holy Book, George Bush is the last president to date, swearing in so Help me God, he'd be a hypocrite if he didn't believe the oath he sworn, its all evidence of the authorship of rights are in agreement with Gods Holy Book, cause every civil case someone needs to swear to God, to a power higher than man, etc...

AdminAsgara, I said TJ said our rights are authored by God, meaning they were drawn from the Holy Bible, because that all in the natural they had to base the Bill of Rights, on a power higher than theirs, however, I'll try to find the quote where he said this, he also quoted he swore an oath on the altar of God, so Thomas Jefferson was quite religious, but our founding fathers also realized the threat of religion against allowing this freedom therein, so while he supported this freedom, he was also about not allowing one christian denomination from bullying another christian denomination, as is apparent even today, in Ireland between Catholics and Protestants, etc...This site say he declared to all the world, can't find the quote in any library, but still looking, etc...http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/get.pl?a=2001/7/17/023518Thomas Jefferson declared to all the world:"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness [the right and control of property]."That is, since God is the author of our Rights, no king or president, no House of Lords or Senate, no House of Commons or House of Representatives, no Supreme Court or unelected bureaucrat can ever abridge those rights.More interesting stuff on Jefferson the Christian, even rejecting evolution, another acknowledgement toward God being the author of his religion, by another reputable link, etc...I'm still looking for more quotes supporting Jefferson said God is the author of our rights, though one has to respect Jefferson who practiced his religion as president, to the protection of our rights to worship without having the problem as is seen in other countries like Ireland, where you have two religions fighting one another, etc...Acts and Facts Magazine | The Institute for Creation ResearchI just can not seem to find the exact document that Jefferson said God is the author of our rights, other than the links supplied, that imply he did indeed say these words, and given how religious Jefferson was, seem quite plausable, etc...So still looking for the document or manuscript that says Jefferson acknowledged the Creator as the author of the Bill of Rights, etc...

Another quote of the need of the people to have a conviction that these freedoms are the gift of God, totally in agreement with our rights being authored by God, meaning the Word of God, from which this freedom were authored should be a conviction in the minds of the people, etc...P.S. He talks of our rights coming from the King of Kings, the Father of us ALL, and our liberties a gift from God. He is quite the Guardian of religious freedoms, and quite interesting how the enemy twisted his words to make it appear he was not a Christian, he clearly felt our rights coming from the KING OF KINGS, as to is the author of nature.Home - Thomas Jefferson - LibGuides at UVa Library"Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?" --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVIII, 1782. ME 2:227"The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them." --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. ME 1:211, Papers 1:135"I sincerely pray that all the members of the human family may, in the time prescribed by the Father of us all, find themselves securely established in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Ellicot Thomas, et al., 1807. ME 16:290"The evidence of [the] natural right [of expatriation], like that of our right to life, liberty, the use of our faculties, the pursuit of happiness, is not left to the feeble and sophistical investigations of reason, but is impressed on the sense of every man. We do not claim these under the charters of kings or legislators, but under the King of Kings." --Thomas Jefferson to John Manners, 1817. ME 15:124"Under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the Author of nature, because necessary for his own sustenance." --Thomas Jefferson: Legal Argument, 1770. FE 1:376"I sincerely pray that all the members of the human family may, in the time prescribed by the Father of us all, find themselves securely established in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Ellicot Thomas, et al., 1807. ME 16:290WOW!!!!!!! TJ praying to all the members of the human family a blessing, in the time prescribed by the Father of us all, like who was he praying to, but to the King of Kings, etc...He sounds like GWB praying to God, to Bless the USA, etc...Still looking for the particular quote, but you have here a lots of circumstantial evidence, and another quote that tj implyied our rights for freedom were not derived from the charters of man, but because of the King of Kings(Jesus Christ), etc...

Ned, I'm pleased you agree that TJ doesn't sound like a Deist, that was what I was trying to get across, because of his saying our liberties are a gift from God, and the charter being not of man, but of the KING OF KINGS, infering its authorship, not of man, but God.P.S. You have the Charter of the United Nations and you have the Charter of the US Government, which TJ gives credit to the KING OF KINGS, etc...In America they are trying to say TJ wasn't a Christian, in government, so to take all references of Christianity out of Government, and its simply not true, cause religion didn't prevent born again christians like TJ from crafting charters based not on mans charter but Gods.This link is not my personal statement but quoting a patriotic link saying that Jefferson announced to the whole world, the authorship of our rights came from God, think I've substantiated this link, that using other quotes TJ believed the charter was of God, our freedoms gifts of God, etc...http://www.dreamwater.com/raferty/pr_rights.htmlJefferson declared to all the world:"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness [the right and control of property]. "That is, since God is the author of our Rights - no King or President, no House of Lords or Senate, no House of Commons or House of Representative, no Supreme Court or unelected bureaucrat, can ever abridge those rights.Which leads to Jefferson’s next point: "To secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among men." Or in other words, the whole purpose of government, in the first place, its legitimate role, is to secure the rights of man, "anything more or less than this is tyranny."

I can not find Blackstone's quote elsewhere, supporting Jefferson actually said this exact statement in some quote book, so I'm forced to temporarily withdraw the statement, the link did say they were quoting Blackstone the most quotable lawyer in the early republic, on what he said Thomas Jefferson statement was to the world, so thats about all I can say at the moment in respect to the Blackstone statement, etc... "Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?" --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVIII, 1782. ME 2:227 "The evidence of [the] natural right [of expatriation], like that of our right to life, liberty, the use of our faculties, the pursuit of happiness, is not left to the feeble and sophistical investigations of reason, but is impressed on the sense of every man. We do not claim these under the charters of kings or legislators, but under the King of Kings." --Thomas Jefferson to John Manners, 1817. ME 15:124http://www.thinkexist.com/English/Author/x/Author_2104_7.htmHow necessary was the care of the Creator in making the moral principle so much a part of our constitution as that no errors reasoning or of speculation might lead us astray from its observance in practice. Thomas JeffersonThis message has been edited by whatever, 08-31-2004 03:15 AM

Razd, Thats why GWB wants to increase intelligence, that Kerry voted against increasing Intelligence spending, and voted against the presidents bill supporting our troops, and then Kerry attacks GWB and not the Swifties, cause he knows he would lose a debate with the swifties, etc...P.S. I kind of agree that Kerry has a lot of low intelligence too, cause he showed he was capable of holding a c- student in his college days, though either because of lack of effort or intelligence, its a fact he only hold a bachelor of science degree, from Yale. GWB has a masters in buisness, making him more qualified to create jobs, and keep the economy moving forward. The only reason the stock market has not crashed off the high price of crude, and Greenspan raising interest rates, is because the economy is in fact strong, and growing. If you have IRA's, Retirement Mutual funds, this is important, what your suggesting is that Kerry should tax these companies to death to fund his free lunch program, which would be devastating to the Retirement IRA's, those Americans of us that are invested in the Stock market, through all the different retirement plans, etc... The reason the buisnesses left america was not Georges fault, it was the Clinton being led down this slippery slope by the globalists that paved the way, and even now the world trade organization would like to sanction America cause of these foul treaties enacted by Clinton. GWB will stand up to these globalists, what we need is not less republicans but more in the senate. Do yourself a favor and vote for the man standing up for your rights, with more republicans we could address an energy policy, that would only feed the economy that is strong and growing, but agree with you a whole lot of backbone industry has fled our country in the clinton administration, and thus employers left hired the great people from Mexico to work for minimum wages thus Clinton created 3 lower paying positions for every job that was leaving, cause the employers in america realized that Mexican people are great workers, and don't complain about slave labor wages, and this gave the illusion that Clinton created jobs, when all he did was reduce high paying jobs, replacing with more low paying jobs, where now if you want a job, you competing with not just americans but mexican's for a low paying job. It was all a part of the globalists agenda, to achive the UN's objectives to spread jobs fairly to all the peoples of the earth, and to hear what you all are griping about no jobs, is that you got what you asked for, that is if you voted for Clinton, in the previous elections, etc...P.S. You need to remember Kerry voted to raise taxes, though he says he will not, you know this is a lie, based on his voting record, you can say GWB is using dirty politics to bring out this point, but GWB is helping buisness, bound by world trading laws, and in spite of all this the stock market has not crashed, even though the price of crude rose to near 50 dollars a barrel, this supports the economy is quite strong, the days of good paying factories jobs are changing because of free trade they have already been sent packing by the democratic Clinton Administration, and the factory jobs remaining are being filled by Mexicans who have not a problem with working in our factories, and americans having no choice to work ata lower wage in some of the remaining factories, cause they are the only unskilled jobs remaining and if they don't fill it, there are those that will, its all about bringing fairness to all the peoples of the earth, etc...Your beef with jobs being filled by importing people, or with exporting industry is with the democratic party globalist candidates, and the UN Charter, the UN Charter is not for America and ours but for redistributing the the machinery to all the peoples of the earth, Kerry is a globalists, presently not representing his presence in the senate but being a democrat is collecting a salary, breaking federal law, not that he needs the money, cause thats the democrats social belief, to get paid by social programs like unemployment, which is great, but you really have no choice but to accept a job with lower wages, once you unemployment runs out, until one comes available with higher pay, its not GWB's fault, but because of Clintonomics, your chances of getting a job with higher pay will only increase if buisnesses are able to compete on the global market, etc...I liked Pat Buchanan, cause he saw all this coming down the pike, said we should close our borders. If we would of elected him, and done this our industries would still be here, as is Clinton was elected and industries started moving entire factories out of our country, were all sent packing cause of all Clintons lies to the american people that this was a good thing, that its a world market, while Rush Limbaugh and others were screaming about our jobs being blessed by the democrats to leave our country, and to make matters worse sell products once made in america back to America without tarrifs, cause of the free trade agreements, and the penalties of the World Trade Organization to protect these industries from being penalized, etc...P.S. The problem is the democrats aligning with globalists, the solution is to vote the democrats out of office, its quite simple, etc...If Pat Buchanan had a chance to win the election, he'd be the candidate, as is, GWB is the only choice one has, given Kerry not rising up to debate the swifties, etc...http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/UN Charter goals is to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,Page not found - Plaza | Fretag i StockholmInsourcing, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 08-31-2004 07:10 PM

Jar, I took up NoseyNed on temporarily taking back the statement, it appears the link was quoting a famous early republic lawyer, who was quoting Thomas Jefferson, though when one looks at some of the quotes by TJ that the freedoms of liberty, etc... he said were not from the charters of man, but of the King of Kings(suggest the Charter of the Constitution were taken from the holy book)what else could he be implying, so he was quite religious while holding the office of president of the United States, and George Washingtons quote saying that Congress would protect the religion of Jesus Christ, its a mute point that the founding fathers were Christians, etc...P.S. Thomas Jefferson shares GWB believe that less government is better than more government, because the people discipline themselves, etc...http://www.thinkexist.com/English/Topic/x/Topic_356_1.htmThat government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.Thomas JeffersonThis message has been edited by whatever, 08-31-2004 09:32 PM

Jar, Thought GWB is commander and chief, if he was enforcing the laws, he would of had Kerry thrown in jail for breaking federal law, whatever, got to go, Arnold is speaking, Republican Convention, etc...

Holmes, I'm a Pat Buchanan fan too, the problem, is the republican party chose Dole over Pat, cause of Pats radical approach to close our borders to protect our industries from leaving america, and the American people saying that Pat was a radical for daring to try to keep our industries within our country, when you all voted for Clinton you simply proved Pat Buchanan prophetic, and you got exactly what you voted for(so stop whining), however, GWB is not a globalist, but quite patriotic, while Mr. Kerry is a globalists, and they are quieting the media about his reneging to release his military records. What you now are saying is that you want to tax the industries that stayed behind, to bankrupt them so no decent jobs remain in our country, cause they will simply go bankrupt and relocate across the border, which is Kerry's plan, but not Georges plan, etc...P.S. You do realize the Vets requested Kerry to release his complete naval military and medical records in May of this year, he however still refuses to do so(what is Kerry hiding), do you really believe the media's silence on this all (is not showing its bias), it should be front page material, that Kerry refuses to release his complete naval military and medical records, however the fact remains he refuses to deal with the Vets request, to be releasing his complete military records, it was Kerry who said he was a hero, now he needs to prove it so, he refuses, the question is WHY? but well you know the answer, why he is not sueing the Vets for libel, etc...

TJ never said religious people could not be involved in civil government, just that they couldn't make laws respecting their particular denomination, you forget the religious persecution between denominations is why they fled to America, TJ said he swore on the altar of God, to protect religion from religion, its not a contradiction, etc...P.S. What is your feeling in respect to George Washingtons Quoting that Congress would protect the religion of Jesus Christ, its quite obvious the founding fathers were quite religious, about the freedoms, that they had released themselves from Britian, so they set up the Constitution to be the People, and not the King, however, the judges are saying its the will of the judges and not the will of the people, like in california where the people voted against gay marriages, and several judges voted for, in spite of the will of the people, etc...This is the basis of voting Republican and not Democrat is that its all about the freedoms of the peoples and not the will of the judges, etc...If you believe that George Washington *SAID* that Congress would protect *the religion of Jesus Christ*, then you have your answer that elected officials are to protect the Church, etc...

Do you support industries being allowed to flee america, and reset up shop in China, its not about communism but globalisms, etc...P.S. The people that voted for Bill Clinton, simply got what they voted for, Clinton kept his promise to not close the borders, and you all didn't want to be accused of being a radical to close our borders to industries fleeing, so if you voted for Bill, you have no excuse, and shouldn't whine about the jobs that you all were responsible to the sending overseas, I realize you all now agree it was a poor policy(that Pat Buchanan was prophetic), but you can be repentant and vote for George, but don't whine, you didn't want factories for our children but was for the opening of our borders (free trade) and globalist agenda, and thats why you all voted for Clinton, etc...This message has been edited by whatever, 09-01-2004 12:25 PM

schrafinator, To quote Oral Roberts well sort of you need to plant seed, for increase, etc...P.S. If you tax the local quick stops as big buisness, you are causing the seed to not to grow into jobs, what you have to think about is big government means more taxes to do what you could do for yourself, this was what TJ was talking about to less government is best when the people discipline themselves, too me means, this will result in less taxes to all the people, etc...What Kerry wants to do is stifle the recovery, which will mean your mutual funds will lose money, cause they will be taxed to death, what reason would there be to stay solvent in america, if you penalize companies that outsourced yet stayed in America(are you not telling them to flee Kerrys wrath), but to cause less jobs for Americans, you need to plant seed for growth, with growth it will provide jobs, and with less government the people will dicipline themselves (TJ quote),,, the opposite holds true with more government, people don't discipline themselves, big brother will red tape industry to death, etc...If this is what you want, then Kerry is your man, he doesn't understand the seed concept, I never liked free trade because of the industries leaving our country, but don't like Kerry expounding upon the problem by taxing to death the industries remaining, so to fund selfish socialistic rubber stamp (red tape) programs.This message has been edited by whatever, 09-08-2004 11:42 PM