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Author | Topic: Life on Other Planets: Is it a problem for creationists? | |||||||||||||||||||||||
contracycle Inactive Member |
quote: Correct. The bible declares that, let us leave to one side for a moment whether or not that is actually true.
quote: Also correct. Thus, would it not be surprising if we discoevered there WERE other worlds?
quote: Fair enough. Now lets say a hundred years from now we humans are merely one among many intelligent, technical, space-faring species known to us. Sure, this is a hpotehtical, go with it. IF that were the case - and it contradicted the apparent conclusion of your exegesis, which it does - how would you feel about it?
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almeyda Inactive Member |
quote: Actually, Satan says "From going to and fro IN the earth, and from walking up and down IN it".
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MexicanHotChocolate Inactive Member |
It depends on what translation you read...like all Bible quotes.
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almeyda Inactive Member |
Id be interested to see what the Hebrew one says.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
for their sins, too?
That's cute, but no, earth is the only fallen world. It says in Hebrews 1:1....through whom also the worlds were made and in Hebrews 11:3......we understand that the worlds were made by the word of God. It would be illogical to construe that this world is the only world with intelligent life. Considering the vastness of the universe and the limitless power of the Creator, one world is just not realistic and the Bible indicates otherwise. However, will we ever find other life and intermingle? No, for what we touch becomes defiled by virtue of our sinfulness. Adam and Eve have passed their mistake down to all the generations that have followed them. Unavoidable.
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contracycle Inactive Member |
quote: So the answer to the initial question is "Yes, if we discoevered intelligent alien life, it would falsify many biblical claims and thus it would indeed be a problem for creationists." Thank you for prevaricating.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Adam and Eve have passed their mistake down to all the generations that have followed them. Right, but what about the people that aren't decended from them? You know, the intelligent aliens on the other planets we're talking about. Are you saying that they only get sin when they meet us?
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
have I prevaricated? I don't see where I have lied?
Let's just say the bible is correct and there are other worlds God has made, to assume he might make them without intelligent life, is rather limited. What the bible does not say is that these worlds are fallen as is ours. Let's say we do find them, let's say we have the means to travel there.....let's say that will never happen. We would take with us all the horrors present in this world.....let's say that will never happen. Cactus and Scrub and yellow grass
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
They would 'get sin' IF they were to meet us. Which will never happen. Space travel is limited, and the way things are going on this planet, I have a feeling that we are approaching the end-times and Armageddon is not long in coming. There is a place in the middle east - Megiddo - or Armageddon. Spooky, isn't it?
Do you believe that Christ will return? Space travel will then be a reality.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
to understand that we are the only fallen world. Therefore, Christ does not need to die ad infinitum, there is no need.
Hope that helps.
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contracycle Inactive Member |
quote: Maybe. OTOH, the whole bible heavily implies that humanity is somehow IMPORTANT to god; this importance is diluted if he made lots of little people all over the place. It also presents problems for the "in his image" statement.
quote: True. So that opens the prospect that Fallen humans might interact with unFallen, sinless aliens. In which case, how important are we to god?
quote: Uh, no. Why should we do that?
quote: How? Is sin contagious?
quote: Uh no, not really. Thats like suggesting that if London appears in a book, its "spooky" that London actually exists. A number of major confrontations are though to have been fought at Meggido, primarily featuring the Egyptians.
quote: In which case, Christ is not the only way, truth and light. There must be other ways. This message has been edited by contracycle, 06-22-2004 08:50 AM This message has been edited by contracycle, 06-22-2004 08:51 AM
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
wish
oh, what does it mean to be created in his image?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Space travel is limited, and the way things are going on this planet, I have a feeling that we are approaching the end-times and Armageddon is not long in coming. Huh, where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah. Every single year for the past 2000 years. "Real soon now," you Christians always say. I'm not really that worried.
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contracycle Inactive Member |
quote: Well, you tell me: its one of those statements that has had a lot of interpretations imposed on it. If we were to encounter walkin' talkin' aliens, I suggest it would have to be interpreted again.
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PecosGeorge Member (Idle past 6903 days) Posts: 863 From: Texas Joined: |
Well, I understand alien status......Logically speaking, there is no such thing as an alien......you are a child of the universe, goes the beautiful Desiderata, and walkin' talkin' aliens does most certainly describe us rather neatly.
Creation must have been a joyful time for God, or there would be no kittens, puppies, babies of any kind, there would be no ant trying to move a rubber tree plant (LOL). To make so many variations of life, shows a supreme imagination. Creating man in his image, to me, simply means he created him the way he imagined man should look. Clearly that does not imply God-look-a-likes, since God is a spirit.
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