Life on Other Planets: Is it a problem for creationists?

for their sins, too?
That's cute, but no, earth is the only fallen world.
It says in Hebrews 1:1....through whom also the worlds were made
and in Hebrews 11:3......we understand that the worlds were made by the word of God.
It would be illogical to construe that this world is the only world with intelligent life. Considering the vastness of the universe and the limitless power of the Creator, one world is just not realistic and the Bible indicates otherwise.
However, will we ever find other life and intermingle? No, for what we touch becomes defiled by virtue of our sinfulness.
Adam and Eve have passed their mistake down to all the generations that have followed them. Unavoidable.

have I prevaricated? I don't see where I have lied?
Let's just say the bible is correct and there are other worlds God has made, to assume he might make them without intelligent life, is rather limited.
What the bible does not say is that these worlds are fallen as is ours. Let's say we do find them, let's say we have the means to travel there.....let's say that will never happen. We would take with us all the horrors present in this world.....let's say that will never happen.

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They would 'get sin' IF they were to meet us. Which will never happen. Space travel is limited, and the way things are going on this planet, I have a feeling that we are approaching the end-times and Armageddon is not long in coming. There is a place in the middle east - Megiddo - or Armageddon. Spooky, isn't it?
Do you believe that Christ will return? Space travel will then be a reality.

to understand that we are the only fallen world. Therefore, Christ does not need to die ad infinitum, there is no need.
Hope that helps.

wishoh, what does it mean to be created in his image?

Well, I understand alien status......Logically speaking, there is no such thing as an alien......you are a child of the universe, goes the beautiful Desiderata, and walkin' talkin' aliens does most certainly describe us rather neatly.
Creation must have been a joyful time for God, or there would be no kittens, puppies, babies of any kind, there would be no ant trying to move a rubber tree plant (LOL). To make so many variations of life, shows a supreme imagination. Creating man in his image, to me, simply means he created him the way he imagined man should look. Clearly that does not imply God-look-a-likes, since God is a spirit.

yes, I'm saying that - each has equal value to do as it is designed to do. Pigs, lobsters, vultures, etal, to be garbage disposals.....good to do according to plan, and so on.
Man is the highest order in creation and receives status in the mention of being created in God's image.
But, this is my opinion, and the only thing I am absolutely sure about is - we are created in his image. Another may interpret that to mean what another may interpret that to mean.
Everything has a purpose under heaven (Simon and Garfunkel? LOL)

an ant can't
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You're welcome

You're funny, CF
Not a slammer, I see. Thanks.The concept of pure is perhaps personified in the virgin of either sex. You touch, and that purity is lost. It is difficult to understand perfection, because we do not know it the way it was before Adam had a bad hair day. He left perfection, and what he touched from then on, became tainted. If we touch beings from another world that are still in a state of perfection, our touch will alter their state. It's like putting dirty hands on a clean towel, or some such example.
As for fornicators? Well, that takes place outside of marriage, inside of marriage the two shall become one flesh, and lust and sex and joy and wonders, are a holy thing.
I hope that helps.This message has been edited by PecosGeorge, 01-19-2005 15:14 AM

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or that the behaviors they were engaging in would stay the same, but some of those behaviors would become sinful?

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What they were doing would stay the same, what we were doing stayed the same. We did not suddenly do things we had never done before, we did them differently, they would do them differently - and that difference would be sin.This is conjecture, because the measurements used are those available to describe events that happened to mankind. Unless you have a secret you won't share, you will not be around to see space travel of the magnitude needed to travel to other worlds. So, touching beings on another planet is just not gonna happen.
Bending space? There's a story in the OT, where an angel appeared to Daniel 'while he was still praying'......he got there that fast. Bending space? Orion looks inviting.This message has been edited by PecosGeorge, 01-19-2005 20:41 AM

All things created are a reflection of the creator.
They are his handiwork, much like the work I do is mine.
You forget one thing. Only humans have the ability to reason for or against God.
I watched a program on bonobos not long ago, and it did very clever things, and the cleverness was stressed by its handler, who saw tremendous ability in the beast. And he was clever, and he was leashed, I suppose to keep him from running off to do bonobos stuff rather than human stuff. I felt so sorry for him, even tho he got to eat a hot dog, which is part of his natural diet. But, I stray.......
If you had asked it to reason for or against God......?
That requires an able-to-reason life form.

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What do you predict would be the difference, exactly? What I don't understand is how a being could be doing the exact same thing in the same situation, only it's sinful at one point in time and not another, and the only difference is humans visiting their planet.

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Adam and Eve were naked, fine at one point, not fine apres sin. The world they inhabited init was perfect, filled with thistles and thorns and hard work apres sin. The examples are endless. Their decision put a curse on everything, and everything they touch(ed) from then on, was/is subject to that curse. That cannot be allowed to spread onto other worlds.

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I mean, I realize that your model has sex sinful in one situation and perfectly fine in another, and I understand the difference is marriage, or whatever. But this would be like sex with my wife being fine, and then sex with my wife becomes sinful, and the only thing that happened was that a friend came over for coffee.

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The sex those two had must have been amazing. Imagine an orgasm lasting for .. uh.. three days and neither one of them gets tired, never has a headache, never says no. And no sex aids, either. We would not be friends coming for coffee. And they would not understand our propensities - to take over their world, to make money, to kill (if you don't want to, we have ways of making you). They would not understand us, and we would most certainly not understand them. We would be the corrupting influence, certainly - what could possibly change our way of doing things, we have done them this way for so long. A good example of corrupting influence is 'civilization' going to places where the natives are doing things their way, and civilization says no..my way is better...Europeans bringing disease to Natives....see it? This is just an example, using measurements I understand.
A little better?

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So, what you're saying is that after the Fall, behaviors that were not sinful became sinful? Even though the behaviors themselves didn't change?

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What I'm saying is that those who behaved the behaviors no longer behaved them in perfection. It is simple logic, cause and effect, action and consequence. Examples are non-stop.
Is it soup yet?