Quitting smoking?

Your right to smoke stops at the end of my nose.

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Portland started a similar law last year. In L.A. a new law was in effect as of Jan 1, 2008, that if you live in an apartment, you can't smoke in it. You can't even smoke on your own balcony. You have to go across the street.

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As a non-smoker who has lived in apartments where neighbors (even down the hall and on different floors) were smokers, I can tell you that it is awful.Balconies are often stacked on top of one another, and if a smoker is smoking ourside on their balcony, it means that anyone who doesn't want the stink in their apartment has to shut all of their windows and balcony doors. If someone smokes for hours outside every night in the summer (like one neighbor did before we moved away), it means that I never get to open the balcony to let in the breeze unless I want the stink.That's not really allowing me to enjoy my home.

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In my house, you have no right to complain.

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If you can keep the stink confined to your home, then I won't complain.

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In a public place, you ought to have no right to complain.

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If I have asthma and want to go to a concert at the park, why should I have to risk having an attack just because you can't wait until you are away from other people before you blow a lot of pungent air pollution around?It isn't my problem that you are addicted.

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I've had neighbors who played music louder than I liked.

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There are also noise ordinances.

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I've had neighbors who cooked foul smelling foods.

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Every day, all day?Foul food smells being blown at you at every public bar, concert, and nightclub? Foul food smells that gives you asthma attacks?

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I've had neighbors with loud kids.

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See noise ordinance comment above.

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I've had neighbors who swam in cheap perfume or cologne.

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That you can smell from a floor below, three doors down? I doubt it.

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Where does one draw the line in regulating how one person can use their own property for the comfort of others?

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When it unreasonably infringes on the rights of others.

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And it isn't my problem that you have asthma.

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You don't have to smoke, but I can't snap my fingers and get rid of my asthma.That's like somebody who assauts you saying it isn't his problem that your nose got in the way of his fist.

What makes this smoking ordinance any different from a noise ordinance?

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Most noise ordinances apply only during certain times of the day.

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If people have screaming matches every afternoon, I am sure that they could be charged with disturbing the peace, or at the very least evicted for being a nuisance tenant.And believe me, in certain college towns I've lived in, the noise ordinances are pretty strict and do apply for most of the day. They had to enact these since college kids who lived in residential neighborhoods were having loud parties at all hours of the day and night and were hindering people's quiet enjoyment of their homes.

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No noise ordinance that I'm aware of prohibits all noise that might reach someone else's ear.

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The thing is, reasonable amounts of noise are something that nearly all of us make. We talk, we manuipulate objects, we play musical instruments and recordings, watch media, etc. It is part of nearly eveyone's existence from infancy. There are many, many forms of sound that are considered by most people to be perfectly innocuous, and many that are considered pleasant.Nobody has to smoke, just like nobody has to let off air horns.Find a way to smoke or let off air horns in a way that doesn't bother other people, or you don't get to do it. Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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That would be really messed up if someone said that to you as an honest response.

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Well, I guess you think Subbie is, "really messed up", then.