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Message 78 of 299 (246533)
09-26-2005 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by johndcal
05-07-2002 2:47 AM


Back on Topic...heading on course....
john.d.cal writes:
It's just common sense:
1. The scientific community would not accept evolution unless it were soundly proved. As a theory, evolution (Darwin) is on par with plate tectonics and the Big Bang. If origins of species were not understood, science would say so, just as it does concerning black hole singularities, time before the Big Bang, and life on other planets. Science is not scheming against Christians.
Good point. Are we to believe that God dislikes scientists who are not literalists? Nonsense.
2. Evolution has no bearing on the existence of God, because He could easily have created a universe complex enough to allow evolution to proceed by natural law. The presence and manifestation of God in the universe are not nullified by evolution.
Indeed. God is so much more complex and unhuman than we are. (Even Jesus was unlike any of us, although human as well.}
3. Almost everything is evolving according to natural law: from the expanding universe, to the death of stars, to the changing chemistry of the Earth's atmosphere. Is life the only thing that doesn't evolve by natural law -- requiring the continual "tinker toying" of God?
I would assert that psychologically, humans need a prayer communion with God. We were never designed to grow up without Him, IMO. He does not need to make every decision for us...this He expects us to do, but in the presence of His abiding Spirit with which we have communion (common union).
Evolution is a simple, elegant theory, supported by the vast majority of scientists, an extensive fossil record, genetics, geology, biology, microevolution (laboratory and natural), and of course, common sense.
I could not have said it any better myself! Thanks for a good post, sir!
John D. Callahan

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Message 106 of 299 (246872)
09-28-2005 4:11 AM
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09-28-2005 3:42 AM


Super Duper Truper?? Meet me in chat if you have a sec.

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Message 130 of 299 (247221)
09-29-2005 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by halucigenia
09-29-2005 8:54 AM


Evolution for Christians....is it possible?
What if humans evolved into a subset that became "as gods?" In other words, they did not have some ancient inner unction that earlier humans had? Perhaps they needed this development to survive in a cold, cruel, and godless environment? Of course, scientifically we would have to explain what the trait that the earlier set of humans had...and is not a social religious issue as in the A&E thread here. (That is, if Faith/Belief could ever be proven to be more than a relative inner reality! )
Nuggin writes:
Otherwise everything on Earth is a member of the same species.
And a lot of Christians always say this...but they usually say that we are all children of Abraham, a man of Faith, rather than Adam. I suppose that, as a Christian, I am asking the evolutionist theologians, (If you are out there) to explain if this could be both scientifically and theologically possible? I mean, it would go with the story of A&E having two sons, one a murderer of the other one(survivalist, perhaps?) Hope I am not off topic for a science forum, by the way. (Faith would be a good one to hear from...if she could explain it. Twould be interesting.)
I am not a literalist, but it would go a ways to explaining to me how Science, behaviorism, A&E fable, and Tree of either/or all tie in together.(If they do)
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