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Author Topic:   If the Bible is metaphorical then perhaps so is the God of the Bible
Dr Adequate
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Message 4 of 243 (509523)
05-22-2009 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by CarlinKnew
05-21-2009 6:31 PM


We should note that there is no-one who takes every part of the Bible literally.
Then general rule would seem to be: when you come across something you know to be untrue, decide that it was meant to be a metaphor. You can, of course, reduce the frequency with which you're obliged to do this by knowing as little as possible.

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Message 7 of 243 (509532)
05-22-2009 9:26 AM
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05-22-2009 9:13 AM


Bible Literalists at least claim to take the entire Bible literally.
But they don't.
How do you decide what you know to be untrue?
Comparison of statements in the Bible with reality.

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Message 9 of 243 (509539)
05-22-2009 9:59 AM
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05-22-2009 9:33 AM


Most Christians take the story of the resurrection literally. How could they have come to that conclusion by comparing statements in the Bible with reality? Most Christians take the story of the resurrection literally. How could they have come to that conclusion by comparing statements in the Bible with reality?
I did not say that the things people take literally are things that they have compared with reality and found to be correct, I said that the things people take metaphorically are things that they have compared with reality and found to be incorrect.

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Message 15 of 243 (509578)
05-22-2009 3:00 PM
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05-22-2009 10:12 AM


That's basically the same thing, unless they pick and choose certain parts of the Bible to compare with reality and turn a blind eye to other parts.
Well, no it isn't. Because there are certain statements in the Bible (most of them, I should say) with which there is nothing external to the Bible to compare them. The proposition that (for example) Jacob had twelve sons, cannot be compared with any evidence external to the Bible to test it, and can therefore be taken literally rather than metaphorically.
I'll rephrase then: how do Christians decide which parts of the Bible are true?
As I've suggested, by default: they think it's true except where they have to think otherwise.

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