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Atheism Examined

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03-10-2007 12:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 6 by Hyroglyphx
03-10-2007 11:56 AM

Re: What is atheism?
I don't think its intentional, but I certainly believe it to be true. An atheist cannot be pinned down to any true moral position, where as a theistic position is easily identifiable because its parameters have been officially established.
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Why can't atheists be pinned down on their moral position?
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How can theists be pinned down on their moral position?
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Its easy to sit on a pedestal and cast judgment on the theist for failing to conform to the precepts or tenets of their faith. On that pedestal is very safe because they have opted for relativism-- that is, their morals are relative to what ever beliefs about they are prepared to identify with.
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The Theists moral positions are every bit as relative as the atheists. For example, the Theists morality depends on the particular code set he chooses and on the era, mores and culture he lives within.
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03-10-2007 8:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 36 by Straggler
03-10-2007 7:56 PM

Re: NJ, please give an honest answer to this question:
Being atheistic about all other gods is logically consistent (indeed necessary) with having faith in one god so I don't think this line of questioning can realistically be used to expose the flaws in the theistic argument.
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Why?
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03-10-2007 8:48 PM 		Reply to: Message 41 by Straggler
03-10-2007 8:41 PM

Re: NJ, please give an honest answer to this question:
Well, that is somewhat different than what you had said in the message I replied to. In the earlier message you had said:
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Being atheistic about all other gods is logically consistent (indeed necessary) with having faith in one god so I don't think this line of questioning can realistically be used to expose the flaws in the theistic argument.
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Now you say:
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A complete unbelief in Loki would seem, to me, to be the logical and natural position of someone in NJs shoes.
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Only NJ can answer that one.
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Which comment is it you wanted addressed?
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03-12-2007 11:07 AM 		Reply to: Message 98 by Brian
03-12-2007 9:36 AM

Re: Clarifying positions
Why do your Xian friends do good deeds?
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Christians do good deeds for the same reason atheists do good deeds.
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Because it is the right thing to do.
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It really is that simple.
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03-24-2007 9:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 256 by ICANT
03-24-2007 7:30 PM

More of the Real Christian nonsense.
But just because you claim to be a Christian does not mean you are.
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I'm sorry but that is simply laughable. If someone claims to be a Christian and is so recognized by one of the organizations of Christians, they are a Christian.
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