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Author Topic:   Must religion be logical?
mjfloresta
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Message 10 of 164 (338728)
08-09-2006 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Legend
08-09-2006 1:11 PM


Re: Even snake oil needs to be convincing
Paul actually was proclaimed a living God, along with Barnabas, at Lystra after healing a cripple:
Acts 14:11-12 "When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, 'the gods have come down to us in human form!'..Barnabas they called Zeus and Paul they called Hermes because he was the chief speaker"
In the next verse, the Chief Priest of Zeus even came to offer sacrifices to Paul
However, in respone to Brian's claim that Paul was just another charismatic dude looking for fame, consider the verses immediately following:
Acts 11-14 - "But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and rushed out into the crowd, shouting, ""men, why are you doing this? We too are only men, human like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made heaven and earth and seas and everything in them...."
Verse 19 - "then some Jews came from Antioch and Iconium and won the crowd over. They stoned Paul and dragged him from the city, thinking he was dead."
Is the the picture of a fame-seeker? A man who saw an opportunity to have fame and acclaim? of a man who made up a story of a miraculous event on the road to Damascus? Or is it the story of a man who was convinced that God had commissioned him to preach the gospel...a man willing to give the credit to God over himself - even when others consider him to be a god....a man willing to suffer indignities and even be stoned for the sake of the gospel...
Only the second picture is presented in Scripture...Only meaningless conjecture can come up with the former picture...

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mjfloresta
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Message 20 of 164 (338772)
08-09-2006 6:06 PM
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08-09-2006 5:58 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
Where are you getting this prohibition of women making coffee from? I've never heard of such a thing either for Jews (I have many Jewish friends) or for Christians?

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mjfloresta
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Message 27 of 164 (338783)
08-09-2006 6:17 PM
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08-09-2006 6:09 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
Which book of the Bible addresses this?

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mjfloresta
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Message 29 of 164 (338787)
08-09-2006 6:23 PM
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08-09-2006 6:20 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
WHAT? What chapter and verse?

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mjfloresta
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Message 32 of 164 (338791)
08-09-2006 6:26 PM
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08-09-2006 6:25 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
WOW...so i'm a little slow...

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mjfloresta
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Message 34 of 164 (338794)
08-09-2006 6:29 PM
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08-09-2006 6:27 PM


Re: Depends on whether you believe the books.
my pleasure!! (despondedly)

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