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which is why evolutionists themselves do not classify them as close as modern humans are to Neanderthals, which were just a tribe of humans imo
opinions are nice but uniformed opinions are ridiculous..do you EVER research anything before you post?
Evo's do not think Neandertals are a tribe of humans...in fact, every genetic study to date shows them to be a clearly distinct species without even having to take into account the morphological differences.
Beauval C, Maureille B, Lacrampe-Cuyaubere F, Serre D, Peressinotto D, Bordes JG, Cochard D, Couchoud I, Dubrasquet D, Laroulandie V, Lenoble A, Mallye JB, Pasty S, Primault J, Rohland N, Paabo S, Trinkaus E. A late Neandertal femur from Les Rochers-de-Villeneuve, France.
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2005 May 17;102(20):7085-90. Epub 2005 May
Lalueza-Fox C, Sampietro ML, Caramelli D, Puder Y, Lari M, Calafell F, Martinez-Maza C, Bastir M, Fortea J, de la Rasilla M, Bertranpetit J, Rosas A. Neandertal evolutionary genetics: mitochondrial DNA data from the iberian peninsula.
Mol Biol Evol. 2005 Apr;22(4):1077-81. Epub 2005 Feb 2.
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Serre D, Langaney A, Chech M, Teschler-Nicola M, Paunovic M, Mennecier P, Hofreiter M, Possnert G, Paabo S. Related Articles, Links
No evidence of Neandertal mtDNA contribution to early modern humans.
PLoS Biol. 2004 Mar;2(3):E57. Epub 2004 Mar 16.
This one is open access..anyone can read it..from the abstract
PLoS Biol. 2004 Mar;2(3):E57. Epub 2004 Mar 16. Related Articles, Links
No evidence of Neandertal mtDNA contribution to early modern humans.
Serre D, Langaney A, Chech M, Teschler-Nicola M, Paunovic M, Mennecier P, Hofreiter M, Possnert G, Paabo S.
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, Leipzig, Germany.
The retrieval of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequences from four Neandertal fossils from Germany, Russia, and Croatia has demonstrated that these individuals carried closely related mtDNAs that are not found among current humans. However, these results do not definitively resolve the question of a possible Neandertal contribution to the gene pool of modern humans since such a contribution might have been erased by genetic drift or by the continuous influx of modern human DNA into the Neandertal gene pool. A further concern is that if some Neandertals carried mtDNA sequences similar to contemporaneous humans, such sequences may be erroneously regarded as modern contaminations when retrieved from fossils. Here we address these issues by the analysis of 24 Neandertal and 40 early modern human remains. The biomolecular preservation of four Neandertals and of five early modern humans was good enough to suggest the preservation of DNA. All four Neandertals yielded mtDNA sequences similar to those previously determined from Neandertal individuals, whereas none of the five early modern humans contained such mtDNA sequences. In combination with current mtDNA data, this excludes any large genetic contribution by Neandertals to early modern humans, but does not rule out the possibility of a smaller contribution.
Note, the smaller contribution would mean a hybrid zone like the very occassional production of hybrids in the two species of African elephants...but whereas there is evidence for restricted introgression in African elephants..there is none for neandertals even in areas where human bones can be sampled from the same time period.
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Krings M, Geisert H, Schmitz RW, Krainitzki H, Paabo S. DNA sequence of the mitochondrial hypervariable region II from the neandertal type specimen.
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 1999 May 11;96(10):5581-5.
Krings M, Stone A, Schmitz RW, Krainitzki H, Stoneking M, Paabo S. Related Articles, Links
Neandertal DNA sequences and the origin of modern humans.
Cell. 1997 Jul 11;90(1):19-30.
Currat M, Excoffier L. Related Articles, Links
Modern humans did not admix with Neanderthals during their range expansion into Europe.
PLoS Biol. 2004 Dec;2(12):e421. Epub 2004 Nov 30.
Ovchinnikov IV, Gotherstrom A, Romanova GP, Kharitonov VM, Liden K, Goodwin W. Related Articles, Links
Molecular analysis of Neanderthal DNA from the northern Caucasus.
Nature. 2000 Mar 30;404(6777):490-3.
So, your "opinion" mean nothing in the face of actual facts that show you opinions to be based on your personal fantasies.
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