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Thor
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Message 250 of 305 (264935)
12-02-2005 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 233 by randman
12-01-2005 7:01 PM


Re: Education versus Indocrination.
You evos, it seems to me, take a different stance. It seems the goal is not education, but indoctrination. You want to convince people that a theory is true, and so it's not a big deal if erreneous claims are taught because, well, the goal is not to teach students how to view data with a sober assessment, think for themselves, etc,...but the goal is to get them to understand and believe in your theory. So you say, well, even if not entirely accurate, it's USEFUL.
But it's not useful at all if you are trying to educate. In fact, it's completely wrong. It sends the wrong message, and moreover it passes off falsehoods as reasonable.
So the way I see this discussion is that we view the wrong claims differently because I believe in education whereas you guys think indoctrination is an acceptable means of educating minds.
. and back it bounces from the other side of the fence with a couple of slight modifications
You supporters of Intelligent Design / Creation, it seems to me, take a different stance. It seems the goal is not education, but indoctrination. You want to convince people that a religion is true, and so it's not a big deal if erreneous claims are taught because, well, the goal is not to teach students how to view data with a sober assessment, think for themselves, etc,...but the goal is to get them to understand and believe in your religion. So you say, well, even if not entirely accurate, it's WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
But the Bible is irrelevant if you are trying to educate. In fact, it's completely wrong. It sends the wrong message, and moreover it passes off falsehoods as reasonable.
So the way I see this discussion is that we view the wrong claims differently because I believe in education whereas you guys think indoctrination is an acceptable means of educating minds.
Randman, people who live in glass houses should not be throwing stones.
OK, all this was a little off-topic. I think I’ll just go away now.

My Hovercraft is full of eels!

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