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berberry
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Message 4 of 185 (94152)
03-23-2004 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Boston
03-23-2004 2:35 PM


The "Big Band Problem" was solved in the mid-50s with the advent of rock music, no?
Seriously, I thought that retrograde motion of certain planets was somehow explained by differences in the magnetic fields of those planets relative to other planets. I'm not an expert so I could certainly be wrong about this, but that was my understanding. I'm interested to hear what anyone more knowledgeable has to say.

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berberry
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Message 8 of 185 (94165)
03-23-2004 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Boston
03-23-2004 3:23 PM


Don't apologize for that, we need a bit of humor here from time to time.

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berberry
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Message 74 of 185 (101453)
04-21-2004 3:34 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by desdamona
04-21-2004 2:47 AM


Re: Falling stars
des, I think I know what you're doing wrong with your formatting. I've seen other people who aren't used to computer editors and word processors do the same thing, so it's not just you.
When you type a message, don't use the 'Enter' key UNLESS you have finished an entire paragraph (and when you do you should hit 'Enter' twice). Your text will then look normal to everyone, no matter what screen size they're using to view this website.
What I think you're doing is hitting 'Enter' at the end of each line in your editing window (the box you type into when you compose your post), as you would on a typewriter. The result may look fine on your screen, because the size of that editing window is tied to the size of your screen display. However, those of us with different screen displays see either very short lines that hug the left side of the screen or we see lines that go all the way across alternating with lines that only go about an inch. We also see no separation from one paragraph to another.
All you have to do is let the editor do it's work. It will wrap your words from one line to the next automatically. Using the 'Enter' key interferes with the editor, so please don't use it unless you've finished an entire paragraph.
If I'm wrong about this I'm sorry, but I want to echo what everyone else is saying and beg you to PLEASE improve your formatting.

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berberry
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Message 77 of 185 (101460)
04-21-2004 3:54 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by crashfrog
04-21-2004 3:12 AM


Adminnemooseus writes:
quote:
I used to waffle between "its" and "it's", and the such. I may well be wrong, but I vaguely recall sources of good authority that advocate the use of "it's" in such situations.
I think you are wrong. I think this is one of the most settled points in all of grammar. Every reference I've ever turned to has always said the the apostrophe is only used to denote 'it is'. It's easier to find justification for using 'transition' as a verb (a usage which makes my skin crawl, btw).
This is one of the grammar rules I break most frequently, as in my last post (I thought about editing it but didn't). It's an easy mistake to make; I wouldn't be so harsh as crashfrog is about it.

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berberry
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Message 97 of 185 (101486)
04-21-2004 4:56 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by desdamona
04-21-2004 4:22 AM


Re: Falling stars
desdamona writes:
quote:
If you do not know something or understand it,why try to convince others of it?
Do you really think that's what he was saying, des? He was saying that you do not understand it. Go and re-read the post.
quote:
That is not supporting evidence for the big bang idea.
No, but the expansion of the universe is. Do some research about it. Look up 'Hubble Expansion' and 'Red Shift' in any encyclopedia (or on Google for that matter). Read what secular science has to say. Then go read what creationists have to say if you want to, but try to at least understand what the scientists are saying and why they are saying it.
In a nutshell: The evidence is unmistakable that all of the galaxies of the universe are moving away from one another, all from one central point. As an object moves away from us, its color shifts to the red end of the spectrum. This shift is undetectable except by very sensitive instruments. By measuring the red shift, we are able to determine how far objects in space are from us and in which direction, relative to other objects, they are moving. When the universe is viewed with this in mind, it becomes unmistakable that everything is moving away from one central point, thus there must have been some sort of explosion, or 'bang', at that central point many billions of years ago.
Understand also that the science behind the big bang, particularly in regards to the above-mentioned 'red shift', is the same science that gives us doppler radar. If the evidence for big bang were faulty then doppler radar wouldn't work. Doppler radar has helped tremendously in reducing the number of deaths and serious injuries from tornadoes and other storms. It works on the same principle that allows us to see that the universe is expanding.

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berberry
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Message 99 of 185 (101492)
04-21-2004 5:10 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by desdamona
04-21-2004 5:04 AM


Re: lies.
I don't think anyone here truly believes you're lying, des. Lying involves deception. We may say that you are repeating lies that you've been told, but I don't think anyone here seriously believes that you are attempting to deceive us.
You still need to work on the formatting, though. Let up on that 'Enter' key, like I was saying. PLEASE pay attention to this, it'll go a long way toward improving everyone's mood toward you.

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berberry
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Message 101 of 185 (101495)
04-21-2004 5:20 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by desdamona
04-21-2004 5:04 AM


Re: lies.
desdamona says:
quote:
I don't believe that the holy bible disagrees with the universe.
A lot of Christians would agree with you on this, including Christians who believe much differently about the bible than you. Such Christians usually try to live their lives the way they believe Jesus would have them do and they don't worry about bible passages that seem to be refuted by modern science. They realize the contributions science makes to everyday life and especially to the quality of life. They have no problem with theories like big bang and evolution because their faith does not rest on a literal interpretation of scripture. They would have agreed with Martin Luther that it is one's faith in Jesus (as opposed to faith in the literal words of the bible) by which one achieves salvation.

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berberry
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Message 105 of 185 (101499)
04-21-2004 5:38 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by desdamona
04-21-2004 5:21 AM


Re: Falling stars
des, we need to stay on topic here. We're discussing the big bang, not DNA, the ozone layer or philosophy. Go back and reread what I said about the big bang. Read what Sylas said, too; he knows much more about the subject than I do. I've learned quite a bit from him.
Please don't think anyone is trying to disprove God to you, as I told you in another thread. No one here wants to do that. At this moment we are only trying to get you to do just a little bit of research so that you can understand the basic concepts involved.
There's a small book available for a very low price at any bookstore: Isaac Asimov's Guide to Earth and Space. Pick up a copy and read it. Asimov had a gift for making difficult concepts easy to understand. I think his book should be required reading in junior high science classes. As I said, the book is small and won't take much of your time to read and digest.
It may be that you're scared to do this research because you feel you'll lose your special relationship with God. If that's the case I think you'd be much happer at a website like christianity.com than you ever will be here.

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