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Zucadragon
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Message 101 of 410 (457269)
02-22-2008 4:01 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Blue Jay
02-22-2008 12:31 AM


Re: Pull
This is the real point everyone's been trying to make, I think. The entire "universe" at T=0 was the size of the pea. There was nothing outside of this pea. There was no where else for the "stuff" inside to go, because there was no "outside." No force was necessary to hold the "stuff" inside the universe then, just as no force is required to hold you inside the universe now.
I thought it was the point that current mathematics broke down when approaching T=0. So we don't actually reach the T=0 spot but get close to it, and in the closest point we get, its the size of a pea.

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Message 104 of 410 (457280)
02-22-2008 7:05 AM


So technically we are close to T=0 but we aren't sure exactly how close, seeing as math only goes back to a certain point... Doesn't that mean that the time span between T=0 and where we end up with current math might be a very very long period of time ?

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Message 329 of 410 (459638)
03-09-2008 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 328 by tesla
03-08-2008 9:36 PM


Re: Pea size
as you see it, so be it for you. i surely hope a true cosmologist (which is rare) would be able to understand what I'm saying and see the truth in it.
Isn't this the same as the whole "only real experts understand what I say and thus you can't be real experts because they would understand me" argument, which is pretty childish.
On topic though.
If I understand correctly, and I'm trying to even though its a hard way to think for me, the universe shouldn't be seen as an actuall ball thats expanding but more or less a surface that is expanding in all directions.
And on that surface we find the little specks that are the stars, and to normal observation it might look like they are moving away from eachother, but in reality they aren't moving, its just that space is still expanding in between them creating the illusion of movement just as the illusion of everything circling around the planet earth while in reality we are circling around the sun ?
Is this correct ?
Edited by Zucadragon, : grammar and adding of qs

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