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Author Topic:   The Bundys and the Armed Occupation of a National Wildlife Refuge
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Message 12 of 254 (776442)
01-13-2016 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Tanypteryx
01-13-2016 3:03 AM


Re: Dildos?
and a bunch of candy dicks ...
Page not found | USUNCUT - US News | Breaking News | Latest News Today
quote:
Watch Militia Leader Go Berserk Over Mailed-in Dildos and Bags of D*cks (VIDEO)
How can he handle revolution when he can’t handle 6 inches?
Notorious anti-Muslim demonstrator Jon Ritzheimer one of the leaders of the armed occupation of a federal building in Oregon has had his fill of dicks. Specifically, the dildos and bags of tiny penis-shaped candies mailed in from across the country.
Ritzheimer posted a video rant to his personal Facebook page in which he shows the camera the dozens of boxes of sex toys and candies shaped like male genitalia that the militia has received in the mail since their occupation began earlier this month. In a rich bit of irony, the militant islamophobe holds up a bag of penis-shaped candy, which technically counts as one of the snacks the group previously asked for in the mail: ...
See link for the video
Hilarious. A comedy of eros?
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Message 28 of 254 (776577)
01-16-2016 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by AZPaul3
01-16-2016 7:48 AM


Re: Some useful links
Why? The growing public reaction to the Hummer Humper Brigade of Y'all Qaeda, Oregon Branch, is the best thing to happen to the "patriot" movement. Let them implode.
But pick them off one by one or two by two as the leave. It's no Alamo ...
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Message 31 of 254 (776627)
01-17-2016 2:56 PM
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01-16-2016 11:33 AM


insurrection
Can this action in Oregon be considered levying war against the United States?
War, no. Insurrection? yes.
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Message 36 of 254 (776680)
01-18-2016 10:20 AM
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01-17-2016 9:06 PM


Re: insurrection
OK, so we can't hang 'em. But can we suspend them? From a rope around their necks?
John Brown. But we don't want to make martyrs of them either.
Most insurrections were "resolved" by guns in the past, but I would prefer a more peaceful result: jail for several decades, seizing all their property, and assets to pay fees, etc.
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Message 38 of 254 (776704)
01-18-2016 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by JonF
01-18-2016 12:45 PM


Re: insurrection not quite treason?
Interestingly google quickly jumps to treason definition united states implying that a lot of people are searching this.
Treason - Wikipedia: "... In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aiding or involved by such an endeavor. ... "
Legal Definition of Treason: "The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. "
TREASON Definition & Meaning - Black's Law Dictionary: "What is TREASON? The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance; or of betraying the state into the hands of a foreign power. Webster. "
It could be argued that they are not so much attempting to overthrow the government as they are trying to subvert it to their purposes.
It seems to me that insurrection is more accurate, and here we have
Insurrection Act of 1807 - Wikipedia "The Insurrection Act of 1807 is the set of laws that govern the ability of the President of the United States to deploy troops within the United States to put down lawlessness, insurrection and rebellion. The laws are chiefly contained in 10 U.S.C. 331—335. The general aim is to limit Presidential power as much as possible, relying on state and local governments for initial response in the event of insurrection. Coupled with the Posse Comitatus Act, Presidential powers for law enforcement are limited and delayed."
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute: "18 U.S. Code 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection: Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
So all those people sending care packages are also guilty ...
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Message 46 of 254 (776734)
01-19-2016 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by foreveryoung
01-18-2016 9:30 PM


Re: insurrection
Why is peaceful better? There is nothing pleasing about the thought of decades in jail. Living in a physical body without living in any real sense is much worse than violence. If I knew they were capturing me to haul me off to a life of prison, I would put a bullet in my brain.
You are free to make that choice.
The point is to not make them martyrs for the militia idiological folks.
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Message 48 of 254 (776756)
01-19-2016 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Omnivorous
01-19-2016 2:11 PM


Re: How to crack these neanderthals in a nutshell...
After surfing some right-wing sites, I suggest a few flyovers that use the mind control chemtrail technology the feds keep under wraps.
And drones, lots of drones, especially those with the high pitched whine that sounds like a bee's nest, and especially at night. Use them to document every action. Rig them to drop teargas canisters if shot at. Play loud music 24/7. Put nail boards across the roads in and out.
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Message 56 of 254 (776814)
01-20-2016 3:20 PM
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01-19-2016 7:27 PM


Re: How to crack these neanderthals in a nutshell...
I volunteer to make the mix tape.
And I suggest children's songs with lots of repetitions as the most appropriate ...
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Message 71 of 254 (776861)
01-21-2016 2:43 PM
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01-20-2016 11:32 PM


Re: This just keeps getting better
Then, again, if we wait a bit more, more "patriots" will gravitate to the Hummer Humpers and we can crush more of them all at once when we unleash the dogs.
While I figure the FBI already has these people on a watch list (or should), this may be a way to see who shows up, any new faces, etc.
I do think access OUT should be blocked, but let as many nuts inside as want to go, arrest anyone who comes out.
Letting them have press conferences and attend meetings is not working.

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Message 73 of 254 (776869)
01-21-2016 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Tanypteryx
01-21-2016 4:37 PM


Sign the Petition?
Plus their cronies are harassing the families of law enforcement and federal workers. These un-American thugs are an embarrassment to us all.
Well there is a petition for the USGov to take action:
The White House
quote:
We petition the obama administration to:
Arrest Ammon Bundy and the armed occupiers of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge.
President Obama,
We respectfully request that you end the armed occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge immediately. At the very least, you owe the American people an explanation as to why the area has not been isolated. Members of their organization can come and go as they please, members of the community can visit the occupied facility, and other right-wing extremist groups such as the Idaho III% can show their support.
Law enforcement inaction up to this point is an egregious violation of public safety and emboldens their erroneous assertions that the US Government has no Constitutional Authority.
Please end the siege of the refuge and arraign Ammon Bundy as soon as possible.
The petition is ~1/8 of the way to enough signatures, but it HAS doubled since I signed: more people need to know about it -- you can spread the information on your facebook or twitter accounts.
Note that this started in Oregon and has a lot of support from our western citizens.
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Message 76 of 254 (776899)
01-22-2016 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Tanypteryx
01-21-2016 6:18 PM


Re: Sign the Petition?
Hope the signatures keep building up.
The FBI looks totally incompetent today when they had the perfect opportunity to take Bundy into custody. FBI and Oregon standoff leaders begin negotiations to end refuge occupation
Well it sounds like they are giving these insurrectionists enough rope to incriminate them for multiple crimes, which they seem willing to volunteer admission to committing.
Destruction of national heritage artifacts can apparently now be added to the list of confirmed acts.
But we'll have to see how the negotiations go.

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Message 80 of 254 (777006)
01-24-2016 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Tanypteryx
01-24-2016 2:51 AM


Wildlife ...
Thought you would enjoy this:

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Message 89 of 254 (777038)
01-25-2016 9:07 AM
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01-24-2016 4:11 PM


and in Maine
At first, I read that as a "barrel of flamingos" which isn't nearly as funny.
Maybe this will help

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Message 93 of 254 (777102)
01-26-2016 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by Asgara
01-26-2016 1:58 AM


Re: Demands
For a recording (video) that Ammon Bundy posted of his talk with the negotiator see Ammon Bundy Gave His List Of Demands To The FBI Get Ready To Laugh Your A$$ Off (VIDEO)
Full transcript plus his smirking face.
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Message 95 of 254 (777104)
01-26-2016 9:17 AM
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01-26-2016 9:00 AM


Re: Demands
and in a follow up report from Maine ...
This is what happens when the government gives people handouts, they feel like they are entitled ...

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