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I prefer the facts, Faith. I don't have a horse in this race and I'm prepared to be educated. If I'm wrong, I'm absolutely positive I'll be put right, but it will be done by facts and not supposition.We know that there are areas of the earth that are geologically active and there are areas that aren't, so it should be no surprise when we see that pattern replicated in the earth's sediments. If the sediments were an enormous jumble everywhere you might have a point, otherwise I don't believe you do.

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This is some weird thing I can't even follow, but the layers to the left are the Grand Staircase and I've included them in all my discussions, also my theory about how the whole area got eroded as it is by all those disturbances we're talking about, and your notion that I'm "surprised" by any of it is just off the wall. Probably because you haven't been following the argument until recently. Oh well, what do I expect?

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You've missed my entire point, which was that there are missing layers which, unless you knew that, would suggest to no erosion had occurred. But never mind.(And, btw, I have been following from the beginning, but not contributing much because I'm no geologist - you're jumping to conclusions again. "Oh well, what do I expect?

Just thought I'd point out the mote in your own eye. You know, for when you complain about people slagging you off.

This sums up your entire analytical methodology doesn't it?You sit at home behind your computer screen look at a picture and randomly decide that the geologists that have studied those rocks, chiselled away samples of them, analysed them and determined what they actually are based on hundreds of years of prior research, are wrong.You are the very definition of hubris, a perfect fit.

Take that to the original sin forum and answer my simple question about it - so far no-one there has been able to.EvC Forum: Importance of Original Sin

Then I suggest you re-read your book

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And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lifted up above the earth.
18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22 all in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

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The flood rose constantly and stayed 15 cubits above the mountains for 150 days, are you seriously saying that some footprints survived because, well because what???

For there to be footprints, there need to be living creatures to make them. The flood killed all animals as the waters rose. The same flood would would wash away all footprints.You don't see the footprints on a the beach when the tide recedes do you?Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

What are you arguing, that the waters didn't rise? So you, I and Percy all have a problem working out how footprints of (dead) animals are left behind by a cataclysmic and global flood, where it rained on the earth for 40 days and 40 nights and the fountains of the deep opened up and the waters covered the mountains, then receded with such violence that it gouged the rocks themselves to massive depths and created monolithic landscapes such as the Grand Canyon.Yet soft, wet, muddy footprints survived? Minor problem for you perhaps?

The waters rose constantly for 40 days. Are you saying that the animals under water whilst the flood was still rising were alive until the tops of the mountains were covered at the end of 40 days? I suspect not. I suspect you will agree that the flood killed the animals as it rose.There are no phases of the flood, the fountains of the deep opened and it rained for 40 days and nights. This is your book faith, not mine: I really think we can assume that as the waters rose, the animals were killed and their footprints eradicated, don't you?

Just so you have something to think about whilst you're in Time Out - it's not just science that says you're wrong, the rest of Christianity does too, your personal interpretation of what is biblical is a tiny, insignificant minority of even Christian's interpretations.You have global science against you, all other religions against you, atheists against you and virtually every other Christian against you. So obviously you must be right.