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I'd like a word like "stick," but not "stick." I think I'll stay with "stay."Faith, do you have any clue as to what a goober you sound like talking like that?

A minor correction, Faith: " Those who have the data call the science" is the way your last sentence should read. Data trumps "power and influence."

Faith, get some modeling clay and a camera. Uplift or fault the clay in such a manner that you get curvy cracks and breaks in it. Post a picture of your results here on EvC.And get pictures of underwater piles of sand with a twenty-degree angle of repose while you are experimenting. My offers of the past three years to send you sand, a protractor, and a Pyrex cake pan still are open.

Faith, back in message 662 of this thread you said: I'm fully aware that this has been your position on "old earth" topics through your time here at EvC. But I'm curious, if off-topic, as to whether you regard the "natural reading" of "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" to be that you shouldn't be here at all? Or that "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ." is talking about $11 per hour hired help, and not chattel slaves?Why just the start of Genesis?

You're kidding now, right? Please tell me you're kidding. A "deeply buried river" eroding meanders in semi-solid muddy subterranean rock-to-be? Really?

NO, IT COULD NOT HAVE!!!!!Three words, Faith: angle of repose.
My three-year-old offer of a Pyrex loaf pan, a protractor, and a cup of sand is still open to you. You can measure, in your own kitchen, the maximum angle of repose that you can get with 1) dry and 2) submerged sand.I will even send water if you need it - I have a sample of sea water from Romania, if you feel that is closer to Fludde water than fresh from the Ogallala aquifer.

No, it gets wet, but the sand down below the surface a ways is constrained to staying like it's already stacked by the sand packed all around it.My offer is raised to a QUART of sand, a Pyrex loaf pan, and a protractor. Two colors of sand, if you wish, so that you can see your angles of repose within the sand bed. And I still can supple the water.If you have to go to a ten-gallon aquarium, I might call it off though.....

Submerged is lower?!! Have I not been telling you that for a Long While?!

Just PM me an address, Faith. Only FedEx and I will ever know what it is, and I will never use it for anything after your kit.

And way back in the 1950's carbon-14 dating cut its baby teeth on Egyptian artefacts that had approximate dates from historical records. C'mon, Faith: don't make up everything you say!