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Author Topic:   Why the Flood Never Happened
Coragyps
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Message 469 of 1896 (714218)
12-20-2013 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 460 by Faith
12-20-2013 1:59 PM


Re: Catastrophic Cascade U-channels vs V-channel Grand Canyon
I'd like a word like "stick," but not "stick." I think I'll stay with "stay."
Faith, do you have any clue as to what a goober you sound like talking like that?

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Coragyps
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Message 577 of 1896 (714406)
12-22-2013 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 563 by Faith
12-21-2013 11:35 PM


Re: Hoodoos
A minor correction, Faith: " Those who have the data call the science" is the way your last sentence should read. Data trumps "power and influence."

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Coragyps
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Message 918 of 1896 (715138)
01-01-2014 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 913 by Faith
01-01-2014 4:14 PM


Re: It could be so much worse.
Faith, get some modeling clay and a camera. Uplift or fault the clay in such a manner that you get curvy cracks and breaks in it. Post a picture of your results here on EvC.
And get pictures of underwater piles of sand with a twenty-degree angle of repose while you are experimenting. My offers of the past three years to send you sand, a protractor, and a Pyrex cake pan still are open.

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Coragyps
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Message 923 of 1896 (715162)
01-01-2014 9:32 PM


Summary?
Faith, back in message 662 of this thread you said:
All I know is that I follow the thinking of the orthodox preachers and teachers and theologians down the centuries, there's nothing unusual about my way of reading the Bible, but in modern times people have taken to reading it in order to make it conform with evolution and other beliefs that outright contradict its natural reading, the natural reading that has been pursued down the centuries. My reading isn't inconsistent, yours is.
I'm fully aware that this has been your position on "old earth" topics through your time here at EvC. But I'm curious, if off-topic, as to whether you regard the "natural reading" of "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" to be that you shouldn't be here at all? Or that "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ." is talking about $11 per hour hired help, and not chattel slaves?
Why just the start of Genesis?

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

  
Coragyps
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Message 1003 of 1896 (715610)
01-07-2014 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 998 by Faith
01-07-2014 4:55 PM


Re: Back to Basics: The Strata Speak but you aint listening
I'm a Floodist, remember, I think in terms of a few thousand years, not millions, I would explain this deeply buried river as water running between the layers after they were laid down and before the rock was lithified. I see no problem with underground rivers creating meanders between the layers over time.
You're kidding now, right? Please tell me you're kidding. A "deeply buried river" eroding meanders in semi-solid muddy subterranean rock-to-be? Really?

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Coragyps
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Message 1141 of 1896 (715966)
01-10-2014 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1126 by Faith
01-10-2014 10:35 AM


Re: Hey Atheos c.: Here's a Bunch of Granular Studies for you
, but which could support the idea that the Coconino deposited in water after all
NO, IT COULD NOT HAVE!!!!!
Three words, Faith: angle of repose.
My three-year-old offer of a Pyrex loaf pan, a protractor, and a cup of sand is still open to you. You can measure, in your own kitchen, the maximum angle of repose that you can get with 1) dry and 2) submerged sand.
I will even send water if you need it - I have a sample of sea water from Romania, if you feel that is closer to Fludde water than fresh from the Ogallala aquifer.

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Coragyps
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Message 1147 of 1896 (715973)
01-10-2014 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1146 by Faith
01-10-2014 2:00 PM


Re: dry deposition characteristics of sand dunes
Oh I get it, it gets wet but it doesn't get wet. Of course.
No, it gets wet, but the sand down below the surface a ways is constrained to staying like it's already stacked by the sand packed all around it.
My offer is raised to a QUART of sand, a Pyrex loaf pan, and a protractor. Two colors of sand, if you wish, so that you can see your angles of repose within the sand bed. And I still can supple the water.
If you have to go to a ten-gallon aquarium, I might call it off though.....

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Coragyps
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Message 1154 of 1896 (715984)
01-10-2014 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1151 by Faith
01-10-2014 3:30 PM


Re: Angle of repose wet vs dry not necessarily absolute
Submerged is lower?!! Have I not been telling you that for a Long While?!

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Coragyps
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From: Snyder, Texas, USA
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Message 1197 of 1896 (716113)
01-12-2014 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1185 by Faith
01-11-2014 11:52 PM


Re: Angle of repose wet vs dry not the same, maximums are not mandatory ...
Just PM me an address, Faith. Only FedEx and I will ever know what it is, and I will never use it for anything after your kit.

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Coragyps
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Message 1629 of 1896 (717374)
01-26-2014 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1627 by JonF
01-26-2014 2:00 PM


And way back in the 1950's carbon-14 dating cut its baby teeth on Egyptian artefacts that had approximate dates from historical records. C'mon, Faith: don't make up everything you say!

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