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Author | Topic: Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
If anybody lies, it's easy to quote them and expose their lies. You might want to try that instead of just pounding the IDIOT! key with your clenched fist in every post. So if I'm civil they won't lie about what I said? The best way to drive your opponents crazy is to stay cool.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Is that the geographic equivalent of numerology?
This site is considered to be the same place where Jesus was crucified
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
I think the phrase "to meet me" makes it clear that he did expect a human being. You don't expect the cows to come and meet you. You expect your wife and children. Jephthah could not possibly have expected a human being to come out of his house or he would not have made such a vow.... And your interpretation trivializes the whole story. It's the equiivalent of Jephthah saying to God, "Hey, if you help me out I'll give you a nickel." His intent was clearly to give a special offering, not just a run-of-the-mill animal offering that he would have given anyway.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
And yet the story is pretty clear that he did.
Jepthah could not possibly have promised the God of Israel a human sacrifice, since God condemns human sacrifice, unless he was completely out of his mind.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
On the contrary, practically every religion attributes disasters to the judgement of the gods. That's one of the main reasons religion exists.
Biblical Christians often point out how various disasters are God's judgments on us. You will not find any such thing in other religions.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
No matter how many times you "remind" me, it's still nonsense. The primary function of all religions is to explain natural phenomena, both good and bad (e.g. good crops, bad crops). The main factor in all religions is a "relationship" with the gods, whether they are The One True God that you claim or what you call false gods or demons. All religions have their peculiar details but none stands out as unique, including Christianity.
However, let me remind you that I've been talking about the Creator God, and nobody ever claimed to have a covenant with Him except the Israelites.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
We know what you'd say. It's still just your own empty opinion. Massive failure to make accurate distinctions I'd say. If you want to claim that Christianity is unique, you have to show that it's unique, not just say that its lapels are a millimeter wider than any other religion's.
Faith writes:
It has nothing to do with political correctness. I haven't said a word about the "equivalence" of religions. I've simply pointed out that all religions have what you claim is unique to Christianity. Very PC, which is devoted to making ridiculous false equivalences moral and otherwise between the most disparate ideologies. The ideologies may be disparate but only in detail, not in principle. You have said nothing substantial to the contrary.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
One hundred and eighty degrees wrong. Christianity - particularly the fundamentalist cults - requires more seeking than many other religions. Remember "Seek and ye shall find"? Christianity is unique in that God found us---we did not have to go seeking Him. In "primitive" religions, on the other hand, you're often born into your "relationship" with the gods just by being a member of the tribe (club).
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Every claim you have made has been shot down in flames. The problem with your approach is that you're trying to prove a negative, that "no other religion" is comparable to Christianity. Oh but I have, many times. All you can say is, "Our cross is made of a different kind of wood." Then somebody points out that you are wrong and you say, "Well, our God is the only one with six toes," and somebody points out that you are wrong again. You can go on forever claiming insignificant differences but they're still insignificant. The very fact that you're trying to prove a negative should set off alarm bells in your head.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's what I said; it's just your point of view. It has no truth value. You might as well try to "argue" that you like ice cream. Not from my point of view. Nobody is disputing that your opinions are your opinions. What's being shown is that your point of view doesn't match reality. You're seeing pink unicorns when the reality is horses.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Percy writes:
I'm just pointing out that Faith has been wrong on virtually every point about Christianity's uniqueness. What seems unique from her point of view is not really unique in the big picture. By analogy, your wife might be perfectly unique from your point of view but to the rest of us she isn't easily distinguishable from a thousand other wives.
I wasn't sure what you were saying here, so tell me if I'm clarifying correctly.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NoNukes writes:
That's exactly my point: to anybody but the husband, they pretty much are.
Wives are a lot of things, but one thing they are not is fungible.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Trusting it without testing its accuracy IS jumping to a conclusion.
... when you simply trust it and wait without jumping to conclusions....
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You're talking about a feedback loop. Nonetheless, you have to make that first leap of faith before you can get any feedback. That IS jumping to a conclusion, even if the conclusion is later confirmed.
The more you trust it and the more it comes through for you the more you trust it.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Golffly writes:
So they had a bit of tendency to "copy" other accounts. Then add their own embellishments.quote:I wonder who the Preacher copied that from.
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