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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Illegal aliens...... Blacks and browns on the dole.... Entitlements....all minorities...... Presumably you have some actual statistics to back this up rather than just parroting Faux Noise talking points. Corporate welfare is the biggest strain on the budget, especially when these companies don't pay any taxes. Why are most low wage people on SNAP and other assistance programs even when they work 2 jobs and more than 40 hours a week? Wallmart and McDonalds for example ... most of them working parents ... while management claims record salaries. If you don't know what is going on, then you are part of the problem. You can choose to be ignorant, but it is an easily curable condition. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
But the fact remains that it's possible for doctors to leave the US and be a doctor in another country. The part about it being "easy" would be weighed against the level of personal difficulty the doctor would be having in the US with the new laws... which is the part I was asking about. To this and the comment about "brain drain" (which involves other professions as well as medicine) I ask: Would you rather be treated by a doctor that wants to doctor or one that wants to make money? Take excess profits out of the picture and you end up with doctors that want to doctor. Curiously I think that would be an improvement. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Yes, but it seems to be a popular human condition to seek rewards. Rewards aren't necessarily monetary. Doctors without Borders.
I think in Europe there are some systems where the rewards are based on improving the health of patients? For example: Someone comes in addicted to smoking and the doctor helps them quit... then the doctor gets a bit of a bonus? Not sure, I don't know much about European healthcare... but I think I heard something like that. That sounds like a pretty decent system. Preventative medicine is way cheaper than treating ailments. Edited by RAZD, : No reason given.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
That don't necessarily make them good doctors. Charging a lot doesn't make them better either. Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
And you also risk losing great doctors, which would not be an improvement... Where to? If all other developed countries have socialized single payer medical systems who is going to pay more? Any idea how doctor salaries compare from country to country? by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Nope.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Another profession, retirement, a new black market. Then maybe I don't want that doctor. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Its no biggie. So what do you think? Would lowering the pay that doctors receive be an improvement? Alone? I doubt it. The major cost of US health care is due to excess profit grabbing by insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies and for-profit hospital corporations. Health related industries should be non-profit organizations. When the motive for service is profit people suffer. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Just drop the medicare eligibility age a year every year, and in 60 years we would have single payer medical system. Everyone would have time to adjust.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Increasing medicare to all ages would guarantee 100% coverage. And we can get on that train in a couple more generations or so. ... No, we need to demand that the age eligibility drop 1 year every year. We can sell it to the cons as a means to ensure the success of medicare will eventually relieve the problems of the ACA ... by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
and that is the way to break the republican strangle in the house.
one state at a time. and just as the republican governors are finding that the ACA has benefits and are signing on, so too they will find that state expanding medicare cuts costs further and provides better coverage. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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If I had to pick one thing that most hurts the US healthcare system it would have to be the Republican party.
If they were truly interested in fiscal responsibility and lowering costs then they should be behind universal single payer care via expanded medicare. Coming in a close second are the health care corporations that are intent on making obscene profits from the misery of others. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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