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Message 183 of 264 (663084)
05-21-2012 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by onifre
05-17-2012 5:40 PM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
I agree with you Oni, if schoolboys tried to trim my hair, I'd certainly fight back.
From the responses you been getting, it SEEMS people like Rahvin, if they ever witnessed their girlfriend being violently and repeatedly gang-raped, I'd imagine they would just cower submissively, accepting the assault while "You memorize faces and names, and you call the cops" afterwards.
How lucky their girlfriends are.
Rahvin writes:
If a woman says "no" in the middle of what was previously consensual sex, and you continue, is it rape? Or did you know "she wanted it anyway," and she should just "man up?"
The irony. Rahvin accuses ME of hyperventilating hyperbole. It burns.
Rahvin doesn't get half as worked up about the murder of women and children via US foreign policies as he does about this topic. Consistency much?

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Message 185 of 264 (663100)
05-21-2012 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by crashfrog
05-21-2012 10:38 AM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
Crash writes:
How lucky your girlfriend must be, that you'd rather die on a hill than make a difference.
I think the emotional toll of doing absolutely nothing while my girlfriend was being attacked would be too hellish to live with. Apparently some of us can sleep at night better than others. Can I ask a simple poll of the forum participants? How many would simply watch their girlfriend be attacked? PLEASE, just a simple yes or no.
Crash writes:
and eschew fighting back with the legal means at your disposal,
Please point me to my post where I stated that. I don't believe Oni ever stated that either.
(I don't understand how you seem to sway so many participants in this forum Crash.)
Going off-topic . . .
Crash writes:
There's much I don't understand about you, Dronester, including your obsession with principle over results.
As I asked repeatedly before, please show me Obama's results in closing Guantanamo Bay or stopping child torture.
BTW, I am saddened that Kucinich has recently decided to stop running for office. It seems you have joy in that. Do you think we have so many principled people in Washington that we can afford to have less?

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dronestar
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Message 188 of 264 (663105)
05-21-2012 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by crashfrog
05-21-2012 12:10 PM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
Crash writes:
Who said anything about doing nothing?
Rahvin said he would "remember faces, go to cops afterwards". This doesn't seem to be "fighting back" in the way Oni or I are asserting. Do you disagree?
Crash writes:
and what you stated - that you both consider it a supreme act of pussying out to get the cops involved when people assault you or your girlfriend,
All you have to do is point out the post where I stated that. If you can't, then maybe you are mistaken.
Drone writes:
I don't understand how you seem to sway so many participants in this forum Crash.
Crash writes:
Because I'm apparently better at reading statements in plain English than you are, and it shows.
Great, then all you have to do is show where I stated . . .
Crash writes:
that you both consider it a supreme act of pussying out to get the cops involved when people assault you or your girlfriend,
Crash writes:
I offer him only as an example of what is accomplished when one is completely unwilling to work with one's own side, when one makes perfect the enemy of good enough, when one binds themselves up in a straightjacket of unwavering principle - absolutely nothing.
As I asked repeatedly before, please show me Obama's results in closing Guantanamo Bay or stopping child torture.

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Message 189 of 264 (663107)
05-21-2012 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Rahvin
05-21-2012 12:11 PM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
Rahvin writes:
Are you enjoying your red herring? Is it fun to go off topic? Do you get your jollies by attacking straw men?
The irony, it burns . . .
Rahvin writes:
If a woman says "no" in the middle of what was previously consensual sex, and you continue, is it rape? Or did you know "she wanted it anyway," and she should just "man up?"
Rahvin writes:
Tangentially relevant are the fact that Oni believes that it's okay to blame the victim under at least some circumstances, that it's acceptable to call the victim of a massed assault with a weapon a "pussy" and that anyone who accurately describes the events as they occurred is also a "pussy."
You, apparently, agree with him. To use your own absurd hypothetical, if your girlfriend were gang raped, you would call her a pussy if she didn't fight back against a large group of men who were armed with a sharp pair of scissors.
You have the same level of reading comprehension as Crash. Show me where I stated that it is acceptable to call the victim a "pussy".

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Message 191 of 264 (663109)
05-21-2012 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by crashfrog
05-21-2012 12:32 PM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
Drone writes:
This doesn't seem to be "fighting back" in the way Oni or I are asserting.
Crash writes:
It's fighting back with the cops,
Thank you for conceding that "fighting back" with cops is not the way Oni and I are asserting.

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dronestar
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Message 197 of 264 (663123)
05-21-2012 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by crashfrog
05-21-2012 2:08 PM


Superior reading comprehension skills? Grand irony
Crash writes:
I agree that fighting back with the cops is EXACTLY not "fighting back" according to you and Oni.
Yeah, unlike yours and Rahvin's other false accusations above, this time Crash, you sure quoted my ENTIRE post Message 188 "EXACTLY."
Seriously Crash, I remain bewildered by your "ability" to sway people on the forum.
Edited by dronester, : clarity

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dronestar
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Message 198 of 264 (663126)
05-21-2012 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Rahvin
05-21-2012 3:00 PM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
Rahvin writes:
It seems that dronester somehow believes that fighting back personally and calling the police afterward are mutually exclusive,
Amazing. Besides magically conflating what I and others stated, can you also tell me what my sock colour is?
Rahvin writes:
What disappoints me, however, is the insistence on identifying the victim of a crime as a "pussy."
Be specific, where did I insist that? (You and Crash are on a dishonest rampage today!)

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Message 224 of 264 (663195)
05-22-2012 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by crashfrog
05-22-2012 8:49 AM


Re: Superior reading comprehension skills? Grand irony
Good job Crash. I am sure Rahvin is impressed.

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