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Theodoric
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Message 91 of 264 (662324)
05-14-2012 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Coyote
05-14-2012 6:18 PM


Re: denial is not admitting you are wrong
We'll probably be hearing next about bed-wetting or nose-picking or something equally fatuous.
Or maybe about what someone they knew or know tangentially said or did. Or maybe what the minister of a church they attended said.
The hypocrisy is amazing isn't it.

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Message 222 of 264 (663192)
05-22-2012 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 221 by Dr Adequate
05-22-2012 12:31 AM


Re: in all honesty
You aint nothing until Artie offers to meet you in a dark alley and beat you up.
You are close Dr, very close.

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Theodoric
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Message 230 of 264 (663209)
05-22-2012 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 228 by Artemis Entreri
05-22-2012 11:09 AM


Re: in all honesty
Listen asshole. For your information my mother recently passed away due to cancer. It was long and painful.
You think you are funny. You are a vile piece of excrement. Comments about violating someones mother are not funny and are despicable. They have no place in this forum or any other forum.
I sure hope admin comes down hard on you. You are nothing but a troll that is here, by your own admission, to do nothing but inflame people.
Your behaviour does nothing but make a mockery of the religion you claim to profess.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 243 of 264 (665126)
06-08-2012 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by New Cat's Eye
06-08-2012 10:53 AM


Re: Romney the criminal police impersonator?
When you've got more than bringing up old shit about pranks he pulled in college.
Didn't realize that something that would be a felony if he had been caught is just a prank. You might want to tell this to people that have been seriously hurt by people impersonating an officer.
Classic case of IOKIYAR

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 251 of 264 (665150)
06-08-2012 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by New Cat's Eye
06-08-2012 4:20 PM


Re: Romney the criminal police impersonator?
Again all you have has personal attacks and feigned outrage. Amazing how you can not reply to me without personal attacks.
Again I do not see how impersonating a police officer, with lights and all is simply a prank. Talk about a false equivalency. It is a felony. No matter how you want to look at Mitt with rose colored glasses it is a felony.
You really want to equate driving five miles over the speed limit with impersonating a police officer.
Read the article it isnt like he just did this once or twice.
Did Young Mitt Romney Impersonate A Police Officer? Another Witness Says Yes - National Memo
It was an actual Michigan troopers uniform.
quote:
Said Madden in a recent interview, “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler.”...
Phillip Maxwell, a prep school buddy, told the New Republic in 2008 that Romney had pulled over students from a girls school next door to Cranbrook while wearing a police uniform as a prank. Other former classmates described Mitt as a “happy-go-lucky guy known less for his achievements and more for his pranks.”
In The Real Romney, a biography published by Boston Globe reporters Michael Kranish and Scott Helman this year, another former friend recalled how Romney had “put a siren on top of his car and chased two of his friends who were driving around with their dates.” The two friends were in on the scheme, but the girls were not. There was beer in the car trunk, according to a prearranged plan. Mitt told his two counterparts to get out of their vehicle and into his car. Then they drove off, leaving the girls behind.
Again nothing to see here folks he is a republican. But look at that Obama, he had dinner at Bill Ayers house. Oh and he used cocaine too.
Give me a frikking break.
Ready, set....

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 253 of 264 (665163)
06-08-2012 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 252 by fearandloathing
06-08-2012 7:33 PM


Re: Romney the criminal police impersonator?
To be fair.... The people he pulled were in on the joke, he didn't try to imprison the girls who weren't in on the joke.
That was one episode.
Read the article.
quote:
He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler.
It sure doesn't sound like everyone was in on the joke.
quote:
Phillip Maxwell, a prep school buddy, told the New Republic in 2008 that Romney had pulled over students from a girls school next door to Cranbrook while wearing a police uniform as a prank.
Were these girls in on the joke? This is a potentially very scary situation when someone impersonating a police officer pulls over young women. So he didn't try to imprison these girls either so we should give him a pass? To Mitt it was all a sick joke, but doing something like this is not funny. That is why it is a felony.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 256 of 264 (665188)
06-09-2012 11:02 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by New Cat's Eye
06-09-2012 5:26 PM


Re: Romney the criminal police impersonator?
When you speculate on other people's wants, you look like really stupid asshole.
I am really tired of your abuse here and had a long tirade typed out. But I realized that I am better than that. If admins want to let you launch personal attack after personal attack so be it.
I know you like people to follow rules but only follow them yourself if it is in your own personal interest. So right wing, so republican.
quote:
10. The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.
Any idea where that is from?
cathyguy writes:
From your own link:
quote:
Romney had put a siren on top of his car and chased two of his friends who were driving around with their dates. The two friends were in on the scheme, but the girls were not.
I know you read the whole article, but I am not surprised you just cherry picked the info that sort of supports your argument. But you see I can read and others can too and we all know you cherry picked. I also know you read my response to fearandloathing which is right before your post.
"Impersonating a police officer" covers a wide range of behaviors, from the wrong costume party at the wrong time to actually running around arresting people against their will.
You spin this any more you are going spin yourself right into the ground. Pulling over people while dressed in a real state troopers uniform with a flashing light on your car is a felony offense.
Only when you're convicted.
Are you telling me that people are only charged with a felony after they are convicted? Come on your arguments are now getting sophomoric and rather silly.
Your personal attacks have become so predictable and lame. You will notice I ended my last post with
Ready, set....
Maybe I should just say go because I know it is coming.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 259 of 264 (665245)
06-10-2012 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by New Cat's Eye
06-10-2012 11:05 AM


Amazing
Surprise, surprise it continues.
"wah, the mean guy on the internet called me names"
Surprisingly, very few people resort to name calling here or most places on the internet.
you say you're better than it and then immediately insult me Gosh you're dumb.
Not an insult, rather an observation from your comments and attitudes.
Are you saying you are not right wing, that you don't vote republican? Do you feel being called right wing or republican is an insult? I don't think being called left wing is an insult. And the dems are too conservative for me so I am not a democrat but being called one would not be an insult. I would just correct you.
Wow, is there anything you can't be wrong about!? I type up these replies from the email notifications, so no, I did not see your response before I posted. There might be more there right now that I haven't seen yet.
Well that seems to be a rather silly way to follow a thread. You miss alot of context if you just reply to without looking at context. To each his own. But I notice not only did you not respond to the fact of being caught cherry picking but you ignore it completely.
I'm not sure you understand what spinning is...
Sure do, do you?
but anyways, my statement is true regardless. And I haven't doubted that what Romney did could have been a felony (I noticed that you changed from calling it a felony to a felony offense). As I said in my first reply to you: what it can be ain't necessarily what it is.
Now you are going to argue semantics? You want to get all pedantic about felony versus felony offense. Ok you win. Whatever.
Duh, I'm saying you haven't committed a felony until you're convicted. AFAIK, Romney is not a felon.
I think your wrong, but then again I don't live in bizarro world. Again you are arguing semantics not the point that is being made.
Then get over it and debate something already. Sheesh. You're practically worthless.
Yet again a post from you full of personal attacks. You will see I did not have any personal attacks in my response it is actually quite easy you might want to give it a try.
I am attempting to debate but since all you seem to have are semantic arguments, slurs and personal attacks and refuse to actually address the actual points, I guess you are not here to debate.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 261 of 264 (665252)
06-10-2012 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by New Cat's Eye
06-10-2012 4:22 PM


Re: Amazing
Actually this debate is not all about you and your positions.
Then get on with it already. What is your position here? Why are you replying to me? About the best I can muster is that you are unable to see how something that is a felony offense could be considered a prank. Is that it?
Seems you have not followed at all the debate. I do not see where I or others have stated it was not a prank.
Also, you seem to have completely changed your argument and understand that it is a felony offense. Just because it is a prank does not make it excusable.
Yes. What you did in college is not your character today.
But it has an influence on my character today. This is not the only questionable self entitled behavior of Romney. Remember the premise of this thread. The impersonating a cop reinforces the FACT that romney mad many questionable choices on behaviour when he was college aged.
If he had done it once I would think it was nothing. That it was a pattern is concerning.
Now you are free to feel differently. If you want to hand wave this away that is your choice. I will not.
Feel free to actaully address it with something more than incredulity towards it being able to be a prank.
My point is pranks can be felonies.
Good day, kind sir! It is a pleasure to have the opportunity for this exchange.
Really??? Grow up.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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