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Dr Adequate
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Message 57 of 264 (661945)
05-11-2012 2:25 AM


Well, if it is indicative of his character now, then it's significant, and if it isn't then it isn't. And the way to find that out is to look at his character now, which is what we were planning to do anyway.

  
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Message 58 of 264 (661946)
05-11-2012 2:40 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Coyote
05-11-2012 12:03 AM


Re: What do you think about the actual topic of this thread?
Meanwhile, all of these side issues are being brought up to avoid the main issue--the economy is in the dumper and the unemployment rate is way too high--and it's too late to blame it all on Bush.
No it isn't.
Really, at what point in the progress of a fire does it become too late to blame it on the arsonist?
Meanwhile, Obama's policies have made things worse rather than better.
But this is plainly not true because things are in fact better. You may wish to fantasize that if McCain had been President things would be even ... uh ... betterer ... knock yourself out, there's no law against wishful thinking. But you can't say that Obama's made things worse, because things are not in fact worse.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 67 of 264 (662047)
05-11-2012 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Coyote
05-10-2012 11:31 PM


Re: denial is not admitting you are wrong
Schoolyard bullying in those days was good for a trip to the principal's office, and maybe detention for a few afternoons.
Pot and cocaine use were then, and still are, mentioned disparagingly in many a statute book.
So is assault.

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Message 153 of 264 (662736)
05-18-2012 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by New Cat's Eye
05-14-2012 4:01 PM


Re: denial is not admitting you are wrong
I just don't think holding a gay guy down and cutting off his hair [with scissors - Dr A] because you don't like the way he looks [gay - Dr A] is accurately described as assaulting him with scissors because you hate gays.
Well, that's quite an accurate description. But maybe a little too accurate for comfort, so let's start parsing it. It wasn't because he was gay, it was just because he appeared to be gay. Unless you have a signed affidavit from your victim stating that he's gay and signed by a notary public, then technically you are not doing it "because you hate gays", you're doing it because you hate people whom you suspect of being gay.
See, Romney would have done exactly the same thing even if his victim was in fact completely straight and Romney just thought he was gay --- so how can Romney's actions be construed as homophobia? which involves hating on people who have been proven gay beyond reasonable doubt.
Why, you might as well accuse a man of being anti-semitic because he beat up a guy whom he thought was Jewish. Unless before the beating the victim showed his attackers a certificate of his judaism signed by his rabbi, that's not anti-semitism at all. Perhaps his attackers were motivated by his hebraic nose, his olive complexion, and the fact that his name was Joshua Goldstein, but they weren't anti-semitic unless he proved to them, before they attacked him, that he was Jewish. Mere circumstantial evidence may have been enough for them to beat the crap out of him, but it's not enough to prove that they're anti-semitic.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 154 of 264 (662737)
05-18-2012 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by onifre
05-17-2012 12:18 PM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
What? No, I didn't even imply something like that. Your mob cuts my hair I return with a bat and brake your legs. Even-Steven.
That's my solution.
Sometimes I make an effort to mock an idiot, and sometimes I just need to quote him.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 156 of 264 (662740)
05-18-2012 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Artemis Entreri
05-18-2012 1:46 PM


Re: in all honesty
It’s not pussy to fight a mob who want to cut your hair. Its pussy to be a rat afterwards. It’s a bitch move.
Psychopaths are always outraged when their victims complain. This is because psychopaths are mad in the head. "I only led a mob to assault the bitch, and now s/he dares to tell people that I did so. This is so unfair on me. Boohoo! Boohoo!"
This attitude does not lead normal people, such as myself, to cry: "OMG, a psychopath's feeling have been hurt! Call a whaaaambulance immediately! Let us give the poor little psychopath the tenderest care, because his delicate self-esteem has been so severely damaged by someone accurately describing what he did."

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Message 157 of 264 (662744)
05-18-2012 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by New Cat's Eye
05-18-2012 2:15 PM


You're right ...
I am. I usually am: my record on being right is good, though I say it myself.
... labeling things as "hate crimes" is stupid.
And yet that was not what I said, as you would know if ... well, if you were able to read things written in the English language, a faculty which you appear to have abandoned in the course of your quest to exonerate a criminal assault.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 159 of 264 (662751)
05-18-2012 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by New Cat's Eye
05-18-2012 2:53 PM


Qu?
What I said was: "And yet that was not what I said, as you would know if ... well, if you were able to read things written in the English language, a faculty which you appear to have abandoned in the course of your quest to exonerate a criminal assault."
I might be able to put some of that into shorter words, if necessary. Which bits of it are giving you trouble?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 161 of 264 (662756)
05-18-2012 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by New Cat's Eye
05-18-2012 3:12 PM


The part where I said that's what you said.
I cannot explain your own statements to you. You're on your own there.
Because of the things that you did say, that were right, it is stupid to label things as "hate crimes" ...
No.
What I said was (let me provide subtitles for the hard of thinking) that it is stupid to exonerate a man of a hate crime on the grounds that he was not absolutely certain, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that his victim was a member of the group that he was attempting to victimize.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 165 of 264 (662769)
05-18-2012 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by New Cat's Eye
05-18-2012 3:26 PM


That's neat... not quite sure why you're saying it to me though.
Your state of bewilderment would be of more concern to me if I was a member of your family or a close friend.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 167 of 264 (662773)
05-18-2012 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Taz
05-18-2012 3:57 PM


Care to speak in plain non-sarcastic honest to god English?
Now, does that sound like me?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 178 of 264 (663047)
05-20-2012 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Taz
05-20-2012 7:33 PM


My mistake for expecting the next president of the US to have a conscience.
Weren't we discussing Mitt Romney?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 221 of 264 (663176)
05-22-2012 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 182 by Artemis Entreri
05-21-2012 10:17 AM


Re: in all honesty
well that would make you a bitch then.
Really?
So in Entrerese, "bitch" = someone who does not think that the delicate egos of psychopaths should be protected by a conspiracy of silence concerning their crimes.
at least now I know what kind of man you are.
In this respect at least the adjective "normal" would seem to cover it.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 238 of 264 (665092)
06-07-2012 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by Coyote
06-07-2012 5:26 PM


Re: Romney the criminal police impersonator?
Someone has a character problem all right.
But it isn't Romney.
Quite so. Romney merely broke the law for no purpose except to cause distress to others. If that was a character flaw, we'd have to suppose that there was also something wrong with being a sadistic serial killer --- an obvious reductio ad absurdum.
But some people have informed you that this is what Romney has done. Some have even suggested that it puts him in a bad light. This is despicable behavior. Even that most lowly of criminals, a district attorney, only degrades himself in this way because he is paid to; the man who would do it for free clearly has some sort of personality disorder, though one that has so far eluded the compilers of the DSM.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 264 of 264 (665447)
06-13-2012 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by Jazzns
06-13-2012 1:01 PM


Re: Romney the Bully as Governor!
So here we have an official act square at the feet of a more than adult Romney, in his capacity as governor, in the effect of protecting bullies of LGBT people.
Let's be accurate, he suppressed the entire guide, not just the passages he objected to. Rather than help LGBT people, he decided not to help anyone.

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