Bush's Shia Islamic War Vs Obama's Sunni War

Since you have the peculiar gift of being able to read the secret thoughts of one-and-a-half billion Muslims, do you suppose you could tell us where Osama Bin Laden is?

Roman Catholics are the dominant religious group in Canada. Most of our recent Prime Ministers have been Roman Catholic but our current Prime Minister is an evangelical Protestant. How does that effect the way Canada is "regarded" by the rest of the world? Do you think we missed getting a seat on the UN Security Council because we're not considered Catholic any more?

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

The UN Security Council should consist of Canada, New Zeland, Botswana, Thailand, Chile, and Mali.Perhaps one could let in Switzerland if they would just chill out.Instead we have the US, UK, France, Russia, and China.The usual suspects.I suppose Obama is part English, French, Russian and Chinese according to some, but definitely not American.I am part English, French, Italian, Scot, Irish, Dutch, German, Spanish and Indian, but according to some definitely not American despite the fact my ancestors fought for the US since Saratoga.What racist crock!Edited by anglagard, : Forgot German, no insult intended.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

Buz claims: BUT as usual, the reality is quite different. Freedom of religion is covered in Articles 41, 42 and 43 of the Iraq Constitution.

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Article 41: Iraqis are free in their commitment to their personal status according to their religions, sects, beliefs, or choices, and this shall be regulated by law.

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Article 42: Each individual shall have the freedom of thought, conscience, and belief.

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Article 43: First: The followers of all religions and sects are free in the:
A- Practice of religious rites, including the Husseini rituals.
B- Management of religious endowments (waqf), their affairs, and their religious institutions, and this shall be regulated by law.

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Second: The State shall guarantee freedom of worship and the protection of places of worship.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

The reality is that most of the predominantly Muslims nations are dangerous places for Christians.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

The reality is that you are once again trying to change the subject in the hope that people won't see that what you post is again wrong.You claimed that :

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If these wars amount to Bush's Shea Muslim War in Iraq vs Obama's Sunni war in Afghanistan, what ever are US forces doing, occupying and building up the armies of either of these religious theocratic despotic nations where Islam, by law is the predominating religion? Other religions need apply as infidels, at the risk of restrictions, persecution and/or death.

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And I responded by posting the Articles from the current Iraq Constitution that guarantees religious freedom.The problem in Iraq is the the US drove out the secular government. We broke it, we bought it. Until we can help THEM rebuild a government that is based on THEIR laws, until we fix what we broke, it will remain a basically lawless society.Now you can keep trying to change the subject but please, stop repeating things that have been refuted.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I don't see where that is related to the topic. What's the point?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

The point is that you can't use a few numbers from Wikipedia or elsewhere to decide that a country is Sunni or Shi'ite. The distinction that you're trying to make is as nonsensical as the idea that Obama involuntarily inherited Islam from his father.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

Quite so. Both my parents are xians, but I am not.Parental religions have bugger all to do with ones own choices.

When you have the high stats that I cited you go figure. Are you saying that the stats are not accurate and/or have no relevance?Whether you're aware or not, the rule of thumb, the father determines the religion of his family.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

I googled "Rule of thumb" but it did not say what you said it says. I think you just made it up.

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Tactimatically speaking, the molecubes are out of alignment. -- S.ValleyWhat if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonYou can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

I'm saying that you can't use those numbers to characterize a country. Canada isn't an evangelical Protestant country because we have an evangelical Protestant Prime Minister, nor is it a Roman Catholic country because the largest religious group is Roman Catholics. The same applies to Islam. You can't characterize a country as Sunni ot Shi'ite based on numbers. That's utter nonsense. You, of all people, should understand that a Christian is a Christian because of his own beliefs, not his father's beliefs. The same applies to any other belief.Edited by ringo, : Sprlling.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

Tell us your story again, Buz, about how you found True Religion at the age of 10........

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"God is Santa Claus for adults."
- Mad Kallie

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Whether you're aware or not, the rule of thumb, the father determines the religion of his family.

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But generally not the religion of a child raised by his mother and maternal grandparents. And at the time Barack Obama senior was with Obama's mother, he was an atheist, not a Muslim.So the circumstances are such that your "rule of thumb" is even less likely to apply than for a normal family - and even if it did Obama wouldn't be a Muslim.Look Buz, if you can't be bothered to do basic research - and if you are foolish enough to think that a "rule of thumb" is a solid argument then you are going to be wrong a lot of the time. And that is one of the reasons WHY you are wrong nearly all the time.

But Buz is right which is why Jesus and Paul and Peter and Mark and John are all considered Apostates.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!