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Modulous
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Message 106 of 111 (600922)
01-17-2011 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Buzsaw
01-12-2011 12:04 AM


Re: Children & Religion
I believe that is true if one is not already a Muslim by birth in a Muslim family.
Nope. According to the Hadith, every child is born Muslim ( or rather, in a state of "Fitrah") but can be corrupted by Christians or Jews etc.
quote:
Allah's Apostle said, "No child is born except on Al-fitra and then his parents make him Jewish, Christian or Magian"
In order to be an apostate one must be shown to have understood and professed the shahada and then renounced it.
quote:
Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Note how Mohammed didn't just say Muslim, but specifically a Muslim that has confessed the Shahadah (further Islamic writings have clarified that this must occur after puberty and that the person must be of sound mind and understand the Shahadah). That is to say, those that have been swayed away from fitrah by such people as their parents (such as is the case with Obama) cannot be considered apostates.
To the vast majority of Muslims, Obama is no different than any other non-Muslim: a former Muslim that should revert to Islam.
Both quotes taken from Sahih al-Bukhari and are easily located online if you doubt.

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