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Author Topic:   Bush's Shia Islamic War Vs Obama's Sunni War
Buzsaw
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Message 1 of 111 (599549)
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


I've been doing some research on the religions of Muslim nations to which President Obama has been favorable with and those to which he has not.
The religious majority of the Muslim populations of the following nations are Shariah type Sunnis: Kenya, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Syria and Indonesia.
Iraq and Iran are predominantly Shia Muslim, now that Saddam Hussein (Sunni Muslim) and his Shia regime has been defeated in Iraq by the Bush Administration. (Bush's Shea Muslim war)
Here's the deal. Obama, who's Islamic heritage is Kenyan Sunni Muslim quickly advocated the transfer of US forces from Iraq to Afghanistan (perhaps so as to undermine the Shia control and allow the Sunni minority insurgents to regain power in the nation).
Obama bowed to the Sunni monarch of Saudi Arabia on his private meeting with King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz.
Obama, commander in chief of the US forces immediately ordered the end of night flights and shelling of the enemy unless first shot at nonsense etc,etc, undermining the efforts of the US forces in Afghanistan. He has reluctantly (under pressure) allowed less troops than requested in Afghanistan. (Obama's Sunni Islamic war)
Obama has worked to end our bomber production and civil defense.
Obama wants to establish diplomatic relations with Sunni Syria.
Islamic Shariah law mandates that our President Obama is a Sunni Muslim, having a Sunni Muslim father. To opt out requires the death penalty under Sunni Shariah law. In that the Islamic Sunni fundies are not calling for Obama's death as an apostate, could it be that they regard our president as a stealth Muslim for Allah?
Some, if not all of these Shariah Sunni nation's leaders have had private visits from President Obama which were secret meetings. The leaders of most of these nations regard Obama as a Shia Muslim.
Could it be that these nations are not chastising Obama for his professed Christianity, given Shariah law mandates children of Muslim fathers as Muslims for life, the punishment for deconversion punishable by death, because of things discussed in these secret meetings from the President?
I'm just asking. What think you, in light of the stats of most favorable Islamic regimes as per President Obama?
Were these personal visits necessary so that no evidence of what was discussed would be recorded by other means of communication?
Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor, mentor and friend for 20 years was formerly a Nation of islam member and friend of Nation of Islam's Louis Farakan.
If these wars amount to Bush's Shia Muslim War in Iraq vs Obama's Sunni war in Afghanistan, what ever are US forces doing, occupying and building up the armies of either of these religious theocratic despotic nations where Islam, by law is the predominating religion? Other religions need apply as infidels, at the risk of restrictions, persecution and/or death.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Accidentally posted original before spell check
Edited by Buzsaw, : complete title
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Edited by Buzsaw, : Correct Spelling

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Adminnemooseus
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Message 2 of 111 (599552)
01-08-2011 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


For a topic titled "Bush"...
it sure doesn't have hardly anything to do with the policies of GHWB or GWB.
Care to try for a better topic title?
Adminnemooseus

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Buzsaw
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Message 3 of 111 (599554)
01-08-2011 7:31 PM
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01-08-2011 7:25 PM


Re: For a topic titled "Bush"...
I accidentally submitted my original when I intended to go to preview. This got me all discombobulated. I've done some editing and fixed the title for your consideration.

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Adminnemooseus
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Message 4 of 111 (599556)
01-08-2011 7:33 PM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Bush's Shea Islamic War Vs Obama's Sunni War thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

  
frako
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Message 5 of 111 (599557)
01-08-2011 7:47 PM
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01-08-2011 7:09 PM


Here's the deal. Obama, who's Islamic heritage is Kenyan Sunni Muslim quickly advocated the transfer of US forces from Iraq to Afghanistan (perhaps so as to undermine the Shia control and allow the Sunni minority insurgents to regain power in the nation).
I thought he was catholic.
Here's the deal. Obama, who's Islamic heritage is Kenyan Sunni Muslim quickly advocated the transfer of US forces from Iraq to Afghanistan
Well DDDDDDDDDD iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, iraq complied with your requests before the ware invading iraq was ilegal and one of the things that branded the US as a terrorist nation in the eyes of the European population.
Obama has worked to end our bomber production and civil defense.
Well you do kinda invest more in your military then the rest of the world combined. And the easiest way to save money do to the recession is to stop investing so much.
Obama wants to establish diplomatic relations with Sunni Syria.
Talking is always better then fighting would you not agree.
Islamic Shariah law mandates that our President Obama is a Sunni Muslim, having a Sunni Muslim father. To opt out requires the death penalty under Sunni Shariah law. In that the Islamic Sunni fundies are not calling for Obama's death as an apostate, could it be that they regard our president as a stealth Muslim for Allah?
Well the christian old testemant clearly says you should kill people of other religions i wonder why you haven't massacred the people that have a different faith then christian in the us.
Some, if not all of these Shariah Sunni nation's leaders have had private visits from President Obama which were secret meetings. The leaders of most of these nations regard Obama as a Shia Muslim.
Well our prime minister Borut pahor also had a meeting with obama i wonder what secret plans they made. And form where do you think they regard him as a Shia Muslim?
Could it be that these nations are not chastising Obama for his professed Christianity, given Shariah law mandates children of Muslim fathers as Muslims for life, the punishment for deconversion punishable by death, because of things discussed in these secret meetings from the President?
I think your bible demands the same
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jar
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Message 6 of 111 (599558)
01-08-2011 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


been down this rocky road before.
Buz writes:
Obama has worked to end our bomber production and civil defense.
Do you have support for that assertion this time?
{edit added as a test}
Edited by jar, : test edit

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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DrJones*
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Message 7 of 111 (599562)
01-08-2011 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


Again with this bullshit
Obama has worked to end our bomber production...
What bomber is in production Buz?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
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Message 8 of 111 (599563)
01-08-2011 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


Buzsaw writes:
What think you, in light of the stats of most favorable Islamic regimes as per President Obama?
Do you understand the difference between statistics and anecdotes? How do you determine statistically whether a whole nation is Sunni or Shi'ite?

"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

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Buzsaw
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Message 9 of 111 (599565)
01-08-2011 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by jar
01-08-2011 7:50 PM


Re: been down this rocky road before.
Jar writes:
Do you have support for that assertion this time?
Yes.
The Obama Administration has already slashed missile defense in Eastern Europe that would neutralize Iran's growing missile threat. The Obama Administration has already slashed the Airborne Laser, which is a powerful defensive tool against potential hot spots like Iran and North Korea.
The Obama Administration's has killed a next generation bomber, the Air Force's F-22, is on the verge of ending the Marine Corps Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle, and appears ready to prematurely end production of the most advanced carrier-based fighter in the world, the Navy's F-18.
The failure to continue production of the F-18 could result in a shortage of almost 200 F-18 Super Hornet fighter jets for our premier power projection platformthe aircraft carrier. Since the strike-fighter complement aboard an aircraft carrier is roughly 50 aircraft, those cuts could shut down four of our ten aircraft-carrier battle groups.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

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DrJones*
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Message 10 of 111 (599566)
01-08-2011 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 8:20 PM


Re: been down this rocky road before.
The Obama Administration's has killed a next generation bomber
A bomber which was never in production, never existed as a flight test vehicle, never existed in protoype form, and doesn't exist anywhere but on paper.
also:
The Air Force will redirect its funds to relaunch an effort to field a new bomber aircraft, with officials saying it will be nuclear-capable. Gates said the service will pursue a bomber that could be flown by a pilot in the cockpit or remotely. The secretary told reporters the new bomber would be built using "proven technologies" to ensure it is delivered "on schedule and on quantity."
Error code: 404

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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jar
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Message 11 of 111 (599568)
01-08-2011 8:55 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 8:20 PM


Re: been down this rocky road before.
Too funny. Where do you get this nonsense?
Truth.
quote:
The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Program was supposed to produce the bedrock fighter for the next generation of American military aviation. Like the F-4 Phantom II before it, the F-35 was intended to become the principle multirole combat aircraft of the U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps, providing all three services with a fighter packing the latest technology. However, the program has been plagued by delays and is now under the threat of the budget ax, as Defense Secretary Robert Gates put the Marine's vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) version of the aircraft on a two-year "probation." Procurement of the Air Force and Navy versions of the plane are to be slowed down as well.
The F-22 has a production run of 187 planes at over $300 million each.
Northrup Grumman just announced yesterday that they reached a new milestone with F-18 production and their stock went up.
Try to get the real facts next time instead of just believing the nonsense sites.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 12 of 111 (599571)
01-08-2011 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


Shia, or Shi'a, Muslim.
Shea butter, or Shea Stadium.
Try to keep 'm straight.

"God is Santa Claus for adults."
- Mad Kallie

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jar
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Message 13 of 111 (599573)
01-08-2011 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


On Shi'a and Sunni
Buz writes:
Iraq and Iran are predominantly Shea Muslim, now that Saddam Hussein (Sunni Muslim) and his Shea regime has been defeated in Iraq by the Bush Administration. (Bush's Shea Muslim war)
Buz, Iraq under Saddam Hussein was secular, the only Islamic middle eastern nation that was NOT run under Sharia Law. In fact he banished all of the Islamic Courts except those that dealt with personal injury cases. In addition, read what you write. It is contradictory to claim that he was a Sunni and created a Shi'a regime. You do know that Shi'a and Sunni are two different Islamic sects don't you?
Edited by jar, : fix subtitle

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Message 14 of 111 (599575)
01-08-2011 11:23 PM
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01-08-2011 7:09 PM


Islamic Shariah law mandates that our President Obama is a Sunni Muslim, having a Sunni Muslim father.
Please cite the law.

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subbie
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Message 15 of 111 (599577)
01-08-2011 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


And down the rabbit hole we go
Islamic Shariah law mandates that our President Obama is a Sunni Muslim, having a Sunni Muslim father. To opt out requires the death penalty under Sunni Shariah law. In that the Islamic Sunni fundies are not calling for Obama's death as an apostate, could it be that they regard our president as a stealth Muslim for Allah?
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. After all, there are lunatic idiots in this country who insist he's Muslim. What reason is there to suppose we have the corner on the lunatic idiot market?
Some, if not all of these Shariah Sunni nation's leaders have had private visits from President Obama which were secret meetings.
So secret that you know about them? Wow, that's some secrecy.
The leaders of most of these nations regard Obama as a Shia Muslim.
Evidence? And by evidence I mean something other than tin foil hat ravings.

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