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Author Topic:   Evidence for Intelligent Design-is there any?
Deftil
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Message 10 of 220 (480448)
09-03-2008 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Beretta
09-03-2008 10:47 AM


I have to agree with others that what's been given is only (potentially) evidence against evolution as it's now understood, and not as evidence for ID. That doesn't mean that those points aren't relevant to possibly falsifying our current evolutionary theories, but they don't appear to be "positive evidence" for ID. Just because current evolutionary theories might not be sufficient to explain Earth's biodiversity, doesn't mean that ID becomes the correct explanation by default. New versions of evolutionary theories may be right, currently unknown explanations might be right, or ID may even be right, but we don't know just by disproving the current scientifically accepted model.
Independently of falsifying the effects of natural selection, genetic drift, and sexual selection, the burden would be on other concepts to produce testable hypotheses that a) explain existing phenomena, b) predict future experimental observations, and c) that are subject to potentially being falsified by some observations. Some facts have been already put forward about strange and odd "designs" in life that could falsify ID, but proponents of ID seem to say that an intelligent designer could have chosen to design them in that way. If that's the case, then it means that there are no observations that could theoretically be made that could falsify ID. Hence the judgement can be made that, at this point at least, ID is philosophy, and not science. It could even be right, but that doesn't mean that in it's current form it's science, and indeed it is not.
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