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Author Topic:   Fossil Sorting in the Great Flood Part 2
Coragyps
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Message 6 of 411 (118747)
06-25-2004 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by simple
06-25-2004 3:41 PM


Re: Where are we?
Now take a certain thing, say Mt Rundle, and then we can look at the fossils there, and likely possibles causes of formation, etc.
And take El Capitan, the tallest mountain here in Texas, too. How did 1600 vertical feet of reef, with many of its fossils in growth positions, get there in a year, or in 10,000 years? And why are none of the species of critters that left their skeletons in that reef still alive today?

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Coragyps
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Message 26 of 411 (118853)
06-25-2004 8:17 PM
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06-25-2004 8:04 PM


Re: selective naturally
Selective data being ignoring the world of evidence and witnesses for supernatural, and spiritual, such as spirits able to go faster than light-
WHAT DATA?
People keep asking. You keep not replying!

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Coragyps
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Message 63 of 411 (119212)
06-27-2004 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by simple
06-27-2004 1:37 AM


Re: ribbing granny
How did man and woman (says evo) come to be appearing together-at the same time? I assume you'd have to say the both evolved at the same time.
Of course not! They're two different, unrelated species, Arkathon!
Seriously, A, have you not even learned this much in hanging around here? Do you really argue against a concept that you have at best a kindergarten concept of? Or are you just yanking our chains?

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Coragyps
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Message 80 of 411 (119336)
06-27-2004 11:17 PM
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06-27-2004 11:12 PM


Re: ribbing granny
Let's give up on this maroon.........

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Coragyps
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Message 97 of 411 (119602)
06-28-2004 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Robert Byers
06-28-2004 4:14 PM


Hi, Robert, and welcome! You wrote:
All rocks and fossils were created at once. Not one type of rock at one time with fossils and then another rock with fossils at another time.
Post #6 on this thread is just the tip of and iceberg of evidence that flatly contradicts that statement. Would you like to learn a little more about this?

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Coragyps
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Message 110 of 411 (120365)
06-30-2004 1:25 PM
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06-30-2004 1:34 AM


Re: Rundle
Arkathon complains, about Bill Birkeland, no less:
"PS easy on the links, try using your own short words,..."
Ark, that is so unbearable arrogant, and shows so plainly that you have no desire to learn anything whatever about the topics you argue about. I stand in awe! You're right up there with Joralex in the Grand Presidium of the Willfully Pig-Ignorant!

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Coragyps
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Message 118 of 411 (120887)
07-01-2004 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by NosyNed
07-01-2004 4:17 PM


Re: Hawaii
And, incidentally, the geology of Hawai'i proves that Pele is The One True God(dess), anyway:
The possibility that the Hawaiian Islands become younger to the southeast was suspected by the ancient Hawaiians, long before any scientific studies were done. During their voyages, sea-faring Hawaiians noticed the differences in erosion, soil formation, and vegetation and recognized that the islands to the northwest (Niihau and Kauai) were older than those to the southeast (Maui and Hawaii). This idea was handed down from generation to generation in the legends of Pele, the fiery Goddess of Volcanoes. Pele originally lived on Kauai. When her older sister Namakaokahai, the Goddess of the Sea, attacked her, Pele fled to the Island of Oahu. When she was forced by Namakaokahai to flee again, Pele moved southeast to Maui and finally to Hawaii, where she now lives in the Halemaumau Crater at the summit of Kilauea Volcano. The mythical flight of Pele from Kauai to Hawaii, which alludes to the eternal struggle between the growth of volcanic islands from eruptions and their later erosion by ocean waves, is consistent with geologic evidence obtained centuries later that clearly shows the islands becoming younger from northwest to southeast.
(from the USGS - http://pubs.usgs.gov/publications/text/hotspots.html )

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Coragyps
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Message 199 of 411 (122527)
07-06-2004 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Robert Byers
07-06-2004 3:50 PM


THe layering of Rock kinds is a human interpretation of Rocks in the field. In fact the only boundaries are those separated by events.
Uhhh...Nope.
The San Andres dolomite out here beneath my chair a hlf-mile or so is Permian in age - pre-Cretaceous. And it started our as a reef that GREW IN PLACE, like reefs grow, which is to say s l o w l y. And after that it got converted from limestone to dolomite by rainwater percolating through it, even more slowly. Not just a few thousands of years, but thousands of thousands.
Read some geology, Robert.

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Coragyps
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Message 203 of 411 (122763)
07-07-2004 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Robert Byers
07-07-2004 4:48 PM


However you can't nor I since geology is not a scientific study but a historical study not open to testing.
Untrue. Geologists study sedimentation both in the lab and the field today, and can manipulate variables to see how outcomes change. And just because geology, like astronomy, is primarily a historical science, it is no less of a science.
I would really like to see your Flood or pre-Flood explanation for the San Andres dolomite. Or for El Capitan, a 1600-foot-thick reef in the Guadelupe Mountains. Or for any of the evaporite rocks we really see in the real world. Or.....

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Coragyps
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Message 256 of 411 (123657)
07-10-2004 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by Robert Byers
07-10-2004 3:56 PM


Creationists love paleosoils for they demonstrate that it was a sudden event that fossilized these soils and not gradual accumulation that geologists tried to say in the past.
Yeah. A "sudden event" buried a couple of dozen soil horizons, each with root traces, etc., between layers of "flood" sediment. Like a German torte, it has so many layers.
You're making this up as you go, Robert.

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Coragyps
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Message 276 of 411 (125108)
07-16-2004 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Robert Byers
07-16-2004 6:08 PM


Albert Einstein comment about religion has no merit as he was a Jew rejecting the Christian faith. Besides I see his achievments as minor in that he dealth in a simple field of science.
Yeah. Simple stuff, that relativistic physics. Beneath your consideration, I suppose, right, Robert?

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Coragyps
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Message 342 of 411 (128095)
07-27-2004 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 341 by Bill Birkeland
07-27-2004 12:41 PM


Bill, you're the best!
That about the dermestid beetles is just too good - it's one of my bookmarks now.

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