The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)

I've answered this before more than once so I'll repeat that Jesus, the (Prince Of Peace} said he would bring a sword in the context that the world would become so divided over him that many would be killed because of him, including him and his own desciples who were all martyred. The Bible depicts a warfare between good and evil. Because of the offense of the gospel of Christ much blood has been shed and a large amount of that blood has been that of the true Christians who harm nobody. War is bloody and the war between good and evil, true and false, et al is no exception. The last prophesied battle, i.e. Armageddon will be the final and bloodiest of all when Jesus, the Prince Of Peace destroys the forces of evil to usher in the one thousand year messianic age of peace headed by Jesus, the peace king. Satan the instigator of bloodshed will be chained in the bottomless pit at that time.Unlike Mohammed, Jesus or his apostles and adherants never harmed anyone physically. Those who call themselves Christians but advocate violence and forcible conversion as did the popes and bishops of Vatican City operated counter to what the New Testament teaches.

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1. This thread is a comparison of two religions which are Christianity and Islam as to which is violent. Both of these religions have a God, a prophet/messiah and an allegedly inspired book/manual which spells out the doctrines of the two religions as inspired by the gods and prophets of each respective religion.2. To determine the doctrines of each religion regarding violence, it is the written doctrines of the religions which come from the prophets themselves as well as the practices of the prophet messiahs themselves which determin what those doctrines are regarding such matters of violence.
What violators of the respective messianic doctrines do is not what determines what the doctrines of each are, i.e. whether either is a violent religion or not. What determines this is what the writers wrote and did themselves.3. Jesus and his desciples all taught and practiced non-violence to the point that Peter was not even allowed to cut off the enemy's ear.4. Mohammed and his desciples, on the other hand both taught and practiced extreme violence throughout their lives as Muslims.5. Both Mohammed and Jesus allegedly had communication/experience with spirit beings, i.e. visions, etc which inspired their lives and doctrines. The above #s one through four prove that these two prophets were inspired by two opposite gods and/or spitit beings, the one inspiring a spirit of violence; the other inspiring a spirit of non-violence.6. A: IMPORTANT FACTOR: By violence/nonviolence my above statements are regarding what was being taught to be practiced by the followers in this life/world order and not regarding judgement violence of the respective gods pertaining to the hereafter.B. This is not a comparison of Judiasm/Islam, but Christianity/Islam since Judiasm was not Christianity but another world order for the specific purpose of establishing a messianic nation in a world full of paganism. Neither Christianity or Islam reject that fact. What they disagree on is which prophet and which doctrine the people are to follow.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Good question, Gene.1. OT Judiasm is not Christianity.
2. The violence of the OT which Jehovah sanctioned in the OT was sanctioned exclusively for one nation for the purpose of establishing a messianic kingdom on a planet full of pagan nations on one small local area of land.
3. The sanction of violence was restricted to that local area.
4. The purpose of the 1st advent of Jesus was to rescue and save the whole world, both Jew and Gentile, allowing all who wished to come aboard to participate in the kingdom of God on earth which was to be established for one millenium in the land of Israel by believing in and receiving the messiah Jesus as savior. After the millenium there was to be a permanent glorious earth and a New Jerusalem, the old earth having passed away.
5. Jesus and desciples forbad all violence, even to the enemies of Jehovah knowing full well that during the new world order period of grace would mean the promised kingdom land would be relatively abandoned and his nation of people scattered until the end of the times of the Gentiles on the planet.
6. At the prophesied 2nd advent of the messiah Jesus accompanied by his resurrected followers, he alone will fight again for his land and his remnant of Jews to establish a 1000 year kingdom in Israel. This violence will be again focused on the land when as prophesied he will do the violence himself to destroy the invading armies and those armies will turn on each other to destroy themselves. There is even here no indication of any of the Jesus people taking up arms in this final battle. See Ezekiel, chapters 36 through 39, Zechariah 14 for two of the significant prophecies on this.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Because the NT which they claim to follow forbad the violence they tolerated and practiced. The lives and actions of the writers who established the religion also practiced no such violence. The NT clearly says that if folks claim they are Christians and blatantly disregard what is taught, that "they are liars and do not the truth.""He who says 'I know Him', and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (I John 2:4, NKJV)Numerous other verses corroborate this verse.On the other hand Mohammed and his desciples both taught and practiced violence by his followers which they have a long unabated history of practicing for Mohammed's stated purpose of eventual conquest of the planet for Allah. According to the Biblical prophets, as I understand them his goal will come within one tiny nation of being realized.. You guessed it, that tiny nation is/will be restored Israel where Jesus is prophesied to return soon and where the final battle of Armageddon will come to pass.THE DIFFERENCE:A. The Christ of Christianity himself effects conquest at 2nd advent in NT, followers forbidden to practice violence.B. The Jehadist devout followers of Islam as per Mohammed and his desciples effect conquest in Quran, followers commanded to practice violence.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Iseage, according to the OT, there was once only Noah and his family on earth. According to the OT, Jehovah warned Noah and his descendents that if they began worshipping other gods, all hell was to break loose so to speak upon them and their descendents. He, being god, exercised much patience before lowering the boom. Go figure. Look up the word "wrath." and note how numerous are the references to it pertaining to Jehovah, the Biblical god.There is only one charicteristic of Jehovah god which is more intense than his wrath and that is his love which extended all the way to the vicarious cross of his son Jesus for the effecting of the salvation of the sinners like me, you and all the rest of fallen humanity, both Jew and Gentile as well as OT folks who offered his prescribed sin sacrifices in effect for that world order/dispensation.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

1. I can't help you. It's plain and simple that if you reject the clear fundamental doctrines of the book and the prophet, you're not representative of true Christianity.2. Check out the violence record of Christian fundies the last few Centuries. Compare them with the Muslim fundies for the same period and go figure. If you can't understand this, it's a waste of my time trying further to show you.3. It appears that you simply want to skate around the plain and simple facts here rather than to admit you lost your argument.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

What does it have to do with topic?

1. I didn't start this topic. It's Faith's thread and OP. I'm participating in it just like you.2. I'm not cherrypicking anything. I challenge you to cite one verse in the entire NT that advocates violence by followers of Jesus and his desciples. How many times do I need remind you that the originators of the NT, Jesus and the apostles all advocated suffering rather than reprisal, revenge or any other violence for advancement of the kingdom of God?3. My arguments are no more self serving than yours. After all, my friend, aren't we all working to advance our own agendas relative to our personal ideology? That my points are weightier than yours is not a fault of mine. You need to reassess your position as to whether it may need some adjustments.

The US is not a Christian nation according to most folks here of your persuasion. Remember? Besides that, governments of nations are a totally different topic and issue. What heads of state do does not apply to the individual Chrisitans in that nation who themselves are accountable for their own actions. According to the Bible, God raises up and takes down nations via war for the advancement of his eventual earthly kingdom and his purposes. Edited by Buzsaw, : eliminate a word and change title

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28