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Let's see, who do I listen to?Al Di Meola
Alan Parsons Project
Allman Brothers
America
Broadway (JC Supersta, Evita, Lion King are the ones I have)
Apocalyptica
The Beatles
Broadway (JC Supersta, Evita, Lion King are the ones I have)
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Canned Heat
Cat Stevens (Yousef Islam today)
Chuck Mangione
Cream/Eric Clapton
CCR
Deep Purple (any generation of that band)
Def Leppard (very little, actually)
Dire Straits
Fleetwood Mac (any generation of that band)
Foghat
Genesis
Gov't Mule
Harry Chapin
Jaco Pastorius
Jethro Tull
Jimi Hendrix
Journey
Kansas
Led Zeppelin (of course)
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Meatloaf
The Moody Blues
Neil Young
Pink Floyd
PFM (premiata forneria marconi)
Robin Trower
The Rolling Stones
Rush
Santana
Simon and Garfunkel
Steppenwolf
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
U2
Victor Wooten
The Who
Yes/Rick Wakeman
Several movie soundtracks (Everest [imax], LotR, Star Wars)
Some one off albums--such as Jeff Wayne's "War of the Worlds" album from the 70s.
And Classical MusicAdd in several artists that I have yet to or barely listened to and can't recall the name
Also add whatever the hell 99.5 The Mountain is playing.Total number approx. 50 that I know, a lot more I don't.Ah, and some might remember this thread:
My Music
I've got another two songs in the works. God knows when I'll get them done.ABE:
As far as I'm concerned, metal and or punk have an almost total lack of substance. I don't even bother with rap, jip-hop, or "pop" music.Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

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You're talking pre FFXII, right? Because in FFXII they changed composer (don't know why).Some really good stuff, especially in 7 and 8. 12's music is frankly boring.

Apparently one of the more famous bootleg tapes are from that band's japan tour in the 70s.I hope I don't have to say which band I mean.

nah. figuring out how to transfer sound from vibrating strings (along with figuring out how to amplify sound) with magnets and copper is probably the most 'fundamental' new thing to happen in music.All that guy is doing is using his mouth to make those sounds. Which is how different from talking? More technical, yes, but not anything 'fundamentaly' new.

But those rythyms aren't really fundamentally new either. The sounds with the rythym would be new, but not the rythym. That's the problem with "fundamentally new", because it can't just be an extension or continuation of something, or a radically different way of doing something (imo).That's why electric amplification would be the closest thing I can think of in music. Yes, it's a continuation of amplification (which is really all an instrument does), but does it radically new. All of a sudden, you don't need hollow tubes or boxes to amplify the sounds you're making.I will settle for calling breakbeats new, though.

jazz drumming?
funk drumming?you said it yourself. The breakbeats came from people spinning lps on their turntables with a funk element. what would be interesting to hear would be older breakbeats, seeing as how that guy may not have even been born in the 70s when funk and jazz were being combined.

Hello funk. That's what is sounds like to me, except they're using different instruments in some cases.If the fundamentally new thing you're talking about is the rythym, there's your historical basis--funk.But if it's the cutting and sampling you're talking about, that's essentially doing an arrangement (specifically playing several songs as one, where portions are only played. quite common with christmas music I've found), and those are quite old.

Well sure. Just like Romantic music is not Classical music, and just like jazz isn't blues. And yet Classical and blues are the historical precedents for Romantic music and jazz. Rythymically, funk would be the historical precedent for breakbeats.I'm probably not getting what you're asking, because you're not making any sense to me. It's difficult for me to see how funk can't have influenced breakbeats.ABE:
A quick perusal through the wiki article seems to suggest that funk is the basis for breakbeats. That's why rythymically, breakbeats have to come from funk, because those are essentially funk rythyms (yeah, that sounds pretty circular). It also seems as if hip-hop may have something to do with it in some vague way.Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

But funk drum solos do keep a rythmic pattern (not necessarily a strict 4/4 all the way through, but like 4/4 3/4 3/4 4/4 5/4 then repeat). They don't completely drop a rythym, which is what it sounds like you're saying by stating that they go off-rythym.The breakbeats that I've heard definitely have a continuous rythym (if they didn't, rave wouldn't be so popular for dancing to). So what have they done? Put a solo on perpetual repeat? Or solos? If so, then the breakbeat essentially becomes what twelve bar blues is--a repetitive rythmic pattern.Further, I hear the funk beat in the breakbeat songs (the few I've listened to, at any rate).A new take on an old idea.Digital instruments could be really quite freaky. That would be the next fundamental change in music, so I agree with you there. However, the only way to make a brass instrument easier to play would be to scrap the blowing part (exception--trombones). Getting rid of the need to blow would be a fundamental change for any wind instrument, though, so . . .