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No, I understood you. What about my post didn't you understand as an answer to your question?

What specifically is the difference between an umbilical cord, and a nursing mother?Are you saying just because the baby is in air, that it can survive on it's own?Woman are not invisible to me, they are the crown of creation.

Let's get back to this rat thing. What is the difference between killing a rat and killing an infant?

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

You can put formula in a bottle. The research to artificially duplicate the function of the uterus was abandoned in the 70's under pressure from right-to-life groups.

In what sense?In regards to all living things, there is no difference.(warning the above statement is garaunteed to be taken out of context!!)

Oh crap, I guess all those neo-natal wards I helped build were all for nothing. I don't belong to any particular groups, so I could care less about right-to-life.

Try to be clearer in your posts to me. This post, for instance, contained nothing that could be recognized as connected to the discussion at hand.I'm glad you helped build some hospitals, though.

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Are you saying it's ok to live like rat's?

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No, but you certainly did: I agree with you.

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i know that dogs sometimes eat their pups.

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Cats, too.

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i imagine it's the same reasoning. this is probably a very common occurrance in mammals.

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I don't think it is "reasoning, though. I think it is instinct.

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a mother would rather kill her own offspring than allow it to suffer slowly or die at the hands of another. anyone see that mash episode where the mother smothered her baby?

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That was the very final episode of the series. I remember it.

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Most of those decisions cannot relate to us, because we have many methods of feeding children,

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But that's not what you said.You said that rat mothers feel similarly about their offspring as humans do.Rats sometimes perform infanticide and cannibalism.Do you still want to claim that rat mothers and human mothers have the same feelings?

well yeah. but you know what i mean.but this is probably another example when the fundies will argue how unnatural something is and then when you demonstrate how natural it is, they go off on 'oh so you wanna be nothing more than animals?' ridiculous.what i wonder is this. can a mother's body reabsorb a fetus when resources are low, or will she simply abort?This message has been edited by brennakimi, 04-12-2006 05:55 PM

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what i wonder is this. can a mother's body reabsorb a fetus when resources are low, or will she simply abort?

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I don't know. All I've ever heard about is miscarriage.

If you agree with me, then end the thread.

Let the confusion begin, and the out of context spam wars commence!!!That is not what I said Your like only smart when you want to be?

no. that's really what you said.
stop playing I DIDN'T SAY THAT games. it's really childish. and if you mean evolutionarily precious... well that's really dishonest for YOU to say.